Unstoppable migration?

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I'll pass on this one. The high ground here is, for me, no ground.

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Sorry to disappoint

It is not me that will disappointed

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by techguyone

As far as being made welcome. How welcome would you feel when you get things like this to look forward to. (Yes I know its from The Mail)

Suppose that photo just shows what happens when we MAKE people people live in squalor for a few days, I mean heaven forbid anything like that should be allowed to happen on the green and pleasant lands of blighty....



A quite apt photo for you from the Guardian following this year's Glastonbury.

(Sorry about the image size but can't resize it on my tablet)

Cheers

Grim

[Mod Edit - image re-sized, and inappropriate word partially blanked out.

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[Osem]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

It's also clear that the migrants will violently resist being re-located to places they don't want to go.

Merkel threw the doors open and said to all: "Come to Germany", so they are. Perhaps we should be greatful that magnet is deflecting most of them away from Calais.

Correct - if they've broken their way through borders to get into Germany I can't see any reason why they wouldn't resist being forced to leave having had their hopes unrealistically raised.

[Osem]

Finland's government has condemned a protest in which demonstrators - including one reportedly dressed in a Ku Klux Klan outfit - attacked buses transporting asylum seekers.

TV pictures showed buses being pelted with fireworks near the city of Lahti.

No one is believed to have been hurt.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34358410

Never mind, just keep telling people it'll all be ok...

[nomadking]

A culture of rape and sexual abuse is being allowed to take hold in asylum centres across Germany as Europe struggles to cope with the migrant crisis, it has been alleged,
Women’s rights groups and politicians have highlighted assaults against women and children in at least one camp.
And they suggest such incidents may be widespread, with many going unreported to the police.
Campaigners also claimed some men saw unaccompanied women as ‘fair game’, and also blamed conditions in which occupants were unsegregated by gender or nationality.

So once we let them in we all have to be segregated by gender and nationality in order to be safe?

Meanwhile outside Calais.

Prostitution is becoming common among those desperate to make money
Gendarmerie patrol outside the camp but never enter to keep people safe
Women say they sleep up to six in a tent as they are fearful of being raped
Say men have knives and 'drink and fight' at night

And these are the sort of people we're meant to welcome with open arms and houses?

These women are from Eritrea, Ethiopia, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Afghanistan. It's a poignant act, meant to tell the outside world, in a very personal way, that they still matter.

Syria not mentioned there.

[Osem]

Whilst I'm sure they won't be staying at Sir Bob's place, we mustn't forget they're all going to be of huge benefit to UK PLC...

It wouldn't be so worrying if we had the means and the will to remove law breakers, especially serious ones, but we all know that even that is pie in the sky.

[Ramrod]

I'm sure that they will all be fine upstanding citizens once they get here.

[deadite66]

elsewhere in germany...

A 51-year-old German woman is being evicted from her home of 16 years to make way for refugees, with shelters already full across the country

The next German general election could be interesting.

[Osem]

Migrant crisis stirs historical Croatia-Serbia enmity

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-eu-34350800

Never mind eh? We're all the same...

[Osem]

A mass brawl has erupted at a tented camp for migrants in Germany, with Albanians and Pakistanis fighting each other with sticks and irritant sprays.

It took police several hours to quell the violence between some 400 migrants at Calden, near Kassel in central Germany, German media report.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34380438

The camp is estimated to have 1,500 migrants from 20 countries, including Syria.

Tensions have arisen there and elsewhere over the way asylum claims are handled, as Syrians and Iraqis are usually prioritised for refugee status.

Last month a mass brawl also erupted at a migrant hostel at Suhl in eastern Germany, after an Afghan tore pages out of a Koran.

Several German politicians have argued that different ethnic groups should be housed in separate migrant accommodation.

Oh well I'm sure there won't be any rioting when large numbers of these people are told they're being sent home...

[heero_yuy]

Seeing as they're at each-others throats in their own countries is it any surprise that coming over to Europe in large numbers that they will continue to be at each-others throats over here?

[Osem]

Well even if they don't have existing reasons for hating each other they seem to be acquiring them fast and religious, cultural, economic and other rivalries will only make things worse I reckon. Syrians and Iraqis getting 'preferential' treatment? I can see that going down really well with the hordes of economic migrants (SOME of whom will be deeply unpleasant and even dangerous people) who're desperate to get into the Europe and disappear...

[Osem]

Authorities in the Austrian city of Salzburg are warning the influx of migrants trying to reach Germany could cause the country's transport system to collapse.


Due to Germany's slow processing of migrants, facilities where migrants are temporarily staying in Salzburg are overcrowded, officials say.

If the flow of migrants continues, the authorities may be forced to shut down its train station where the migrant shelter is, which may paralyse Austria's entire train system.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34377340

[Osem]

A few weeks ago, on the Austrian border, I asked a Syrian refugee why he wanted to start a new life in Germany.

Mohammed - a large man with sad eyes - looked up at the mountains behind him and then across the road bridge that connects Austria to Bavaria.

"It's Merkel," he said. "She says we're welcome."

The German chancellor's open-door policy on refugees has been one of the most emphatic of her chancellorship.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34402001

They're mainly from Syria? Ermmm actually, no they're not. Syrians form the largest single group but far more are coming from places like Albania, Kosovo and Serbia. What's their reason for claiming asylum in Germany?

To my mind there's no denying that Merkel's invitation has worked rather better than the Eurocrats could ever have imagined and the price to be paid is increasing by the day.

I hope the Euro-ditherers are going to get their fingers out pretty dammed quick because if they don't they're going to have the deaths of a great many more migrants on their hands as winter sets in.

[Osem]

Hamburg has become the first German city to pass a law allowing the seizure of empty commercial properties in order to house migrants.

The massive influx of migrants has put pressure on city authorities to find accommodation. Some migrants are sleeping rough outdoors.

Hamburg's law takes effect next week.

In a new survey, by broadcaster ARD, 51% of people said the influx scared them. It suggests a four-year low in Chancellor Angela Merkel's popularity.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34422558

Germany expects to host at least 800,000 asylum seekers this year - about four times the number it had last year.

Many are from war-torn Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. But the thousands arriving also include asylum seekers from Kosovo, Albania and other Balkan countries, whose claims are usually rejected.

On Thursday more than 200 migrants fought each other in a mass brawl at a reception centre in Hamburg-Bergedorf. Police said Syrians and Afghans were involved in the latest clash.

Does anyone really think trying to assimilate all these people (and the many more who'll follow as dependants of successful asylum claimants) isn't going fraught with problems such as these and yet more social unrest?