SD : TV price rises

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by m419

Whether it does or doesn't, BT do not operate there, Kingston Communications, a seperate local company which operates under the same regulations as BT operates there, you will notice the telephone boxes are the same, but they are white

The Isle of Man and the Both parts of the Channel Islands (Jersey and Guernsey) have their own Telecom operators

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by andy_m

I'm sure Virgin know that in the current climate simply having Tivo won't be enough if their prices aren't competitive. The only serious pay TV competition remain Sky, who are already more expensive and who will likely be further increasing their prices in September. I don't want to have to pay more money, but I don't think Virgin seriously have much to fear by doing it.

For you maybe , not for me I'm saving over a fiver a month.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by m419

They used to but they came to a halt in 2006 for some reason.

With Your View, i'm sure a large company like BT will come up with something. If they don't then it will be another big flop

Lets hope they improve BT Vision up to at least to the Virgin TV standard

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

For you maybe , not for me I'm saving over a fiver a month.

But for how long?

[m419]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

The Isle of Man and the Both parts of the Channel Islands (Jersey and Guernsey) have their own Telecom operators

Those are offshore dependencies and to be honest I don't even know why they have UK dialling codes or even why Ofcom has some involvement with them as they have there own parliaments ect....

In Guernsey and Alderney, the main pre dominant telecoms provider is Cable and Wireless but now trades under the 'Sure' brand name

In Jersey it is Jersey Telecom

In Isle of Man is Telefonica trading under the Manx Telecom name, pronto for mobile services.

Ofcom is not interested in any investments these companies make on broadband,TV or anything, I don't even know why they still form part of the UK telecoms. Gibraltar doesn't!

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by m419

Those are offshore dependencies and to be honest I don't even know why they have UK dialling codes or even why Ofcom has some involvement with them as they have there own parliaments ect....

In Guernsey and Alderney, the main pre dominant telecoms provider is Cable and Wireless but now trades under the 'Sure' brand name

In Jersey it is Jersey Telecom

In Isle of Man is Telefonica trading under the Manx Telecom name, pronto for mobile services.

Ofcom is not interested in any investments these companies make on broadband,TV or anything, I don't even know why they still form part of the UK telecoms. Gibraltar doesn't!

Telefonica has sold Manx Telecom in 2010, It was owned by BT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_Telecom

http://www.cellular-news.com/story/43654.php

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by denphone

But for how long?

My deal is full price and was £5.00 cheaper with Sky.

[kop32]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

For you maybe , not for me I'm saving over a fiver a month.

Ditto,also,I don't see why Sky are being brought into the argument in this thread,after all they have not increased their prices and as such have no influence on Virgin Media increasing theirs,surely this is about what is happening with prices and not what might happen with Sky's prices.

[m419]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Telefonica has sold Manx Telecom in 2010, It was owned by BT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manx_Telecom

http://www.cellular-news.com/story/43654.php

Probably to fund for investments on the backward 3G side of O2 UK.

I know it was demerged away from BT together with the BT Mobile networks and formed MMo2 until Telefonica acquired it all. I would have thought Telefonica would sell it off eventually. Originally, I think O2 primarily used Manx Telecom to funnel money into investments of its mobile networks. Over the past few years, Cable and Wireless has begun competing with Manx Telecom and Jersey Telecom.

2 tax havens for Cable and Wireless, they probably make twice as much as money than they did from the UK cable business in the 90s

In these islands, Sky is the dominant pay tv provider, time for someone to compete?

[LexDiamond]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Does Kingston upon Hull telecom provider (Kingston Communications or KC) have fibre optic services?

Bt Vision will be in serious trouble once YourView lauches!

BT will be moving from Freeview based pvrs to Youview based pvrs.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by m419

Probably to fund for investments on the backward 3G side of O2 UK.

I know it was demerged away from BT together with the BT Mobile networks and formed MMo2 until Telefonica acquired it all. I would have thought Telefonica would sell it off eventually. Originally, I think O2 primarily used Manx Telecom to funnel money into investments of its mobile networks. Over the past few years, Cable and Wireless has begun competing with Manx Telecom and Jersey Telecom.

2 tax havens for Cable and Wireless, they probably make twice as much as money than they did from the UK cable business in the 90s

Cable & Wireless split into Cable & Wireless Communications (Intenational Telecom provider) and Cable & Wirless Worldwide (communication networks and services)

Cable & Wireless Communications (which provides Telecom services in Panama, Macau, Caribbean, Maldives the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man) is doing well

Cable & Wirless Worldwide (who provide communication networks and services to businesses worldwide) is not doing so well

They were in the Telcoms/Cable business (Mercury Communications/Cable & Wirless Communications) form 1984 to the late 1990s (when it was bought by NTL)

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Originally Posted by m419

Probably to fund for investments on the backward 3G side of O2 UK.

I know it was demerged away from BT together with the BT Mobile networks and formed MMo2 until Telefonica acquired it all. I would have thought Telefonica would sell it off eventually. Originally, I think O2 primarily used Manx Telecom to funnel money into investments of its mobile networks. Over the past few years, Cable and Wireless has begun competing with Manx Telecom and Jersey Telecom.

2 tax havens for Cable and Wireless, they probably make twice as much as money than they did from the UK cable business in the 90s

In these islands, Sky is the dominant pay tv provider, time for someone to compete?

What about Canal Plus for the Channel Islands, or even Virgin Media and UPC!

[Digital Fanatic]

Everyone is free to vote with their feet. If you feel another provider caters for YOUR needs better than your current provider, then make a decision....

It's a balance between price, service and products.

[andy_m]

Originally Posted by kop32

Ditto,also,I don't see why Sky are being brought into the argument in this thread,after all they have not increased their prices and as such have no influence on Virgin Media increasing theirs,surely this is about what is happening with prices and not what might happen with Sky's prices.

Well it's also about whether, with the price increase, Virgin Media remains value for money, and a good gauge of that is how competitive it's pricing is against it's main (only?) competitor.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by denphone

But for how long?

I currently have Sky+HD with Sky World , ESPN , 9mb unlimited BB , Sky Talk with free evening and weekend calls totalling £92.00 on Sky site during the NFL/NCAA offseason I save 9.00 dropping to £83.00 included with this I get Sky 3D , Sky Anytime+ , Sky Sports F1 HD and Sky Go.

Building a bundle of 10mb BB , XL TV , L Phone , Sky Sports and Movies with Premium HD currently quotes me 97.50 but that's with TIVO fee still saying £3.00 so will rise to £99.50

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

I currently have Sky+HD with Sky World , ESPN , 9mb unlimited BB , Sky Talk with free evening and weekend calls totalling £92.00 on Sky site during the NFL/NCAA offseason I save 9.00 dropping to £83.00 included with this I get Sky 3D , Sky Anytime+ , Sky Sports F1 HD and Sky Go.

Building a bundle of 10mb BB , XL TV , L Phone , Sky Sports and Movies with Premium HD currently quotes me 97.50 but that's with TIVO fee still saying £3.00 so will rise to £99.50

Interesting but then that has to be weighed against a far superior VOD service from Virgin and a superior and faster broadband network and and on top of that there is also the yet to be fulfilled potential of the Tivo which hopefully soon will start fulfilling its huge potential.