BT Infinity installed

[Sephiroth]

FTTP is Fibre To The Premises!

But you were having fun, of course.

[qasdfdsaq]

They'll string fibre on/along the poles I suspect. Some areas already have it distributed that way, basically duct tape it the exact same path your telephone line takes.

[Zee]

So it we pay the £500-£1500 to get FTTP will this be just to our own home or will this charge give everyone on the street the opportunity to get FTTP?

[davidthornton]

Originally Posted by Zee

So it we pay the £500-£1500 to get FTTP will this be just to our own home or will this charge give everyone on the street the opportunity to get FTTP?

I assume from cabinet to YOUR home/premises. I've been wondering what the charge covers because my house is fed from a pole which also serves half a dozen or so other properties, each via their own cable directly from the same pole. The cable goes underground from the pole. Although I also have a spare cable running from the pole to my house doing nothing, both my existing OpenReach lines go down the same cable (so BT Infinity and IDnet). I'm wondering if I went FTTP on demand whether the cost could cover multiple (in my case both) ISP connections. I'm also wondering whether all my neighbours and I could club together and share the charge because the vast majority of the work is getting fibre to the pole that serves all of us. After that it is simply half a dozen or so straight runs through the air.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

They'll string fibre on/along the poles I suspect. Some areas already have it distributed that way, basically duct tape it the exact same path your telephone line takes.

Originally Posted by Zee

So it we pay the £500-£1500 to get FTTP will this be just to our own home or will this charge give everyone on the street the opportunity to get FTTP?

As I was saying on another thread, I recently had a chat to a Openreach tech on this very subject. Unfortunately, much of what he said fell on deaf ears as I'm not very savvy on the tech details of stuff.

He said that BT/Openreach are hoping the bulk of the costs of the rollout of FTTP will fall on small business' (SMEs). My limited understanding of what he said is that the fibre will be blown to all poles in a given area and linked back to the node/cabinet with extra fibres going back to the exchange from the node. The bulk of this cost will be bourne by the SMEs. So that when a resident "demands" FTTP the fibre is taken from the pole closest to the house wanting it. I thought the fibre could only be split at nodes, so I'm really not sure how this will all work. He pointed to a pole further down my street which has power going into it and said at least one pole will have power in every street and that's "key" to their plans, then all the other poles could be removed if that's what BT wanted to do.

When I mentioned costs, he laughed when I asked if BT intend to charge residents £1000+, he reckons a few hundred at most.

He was also talking about BT putting transmitters on the poles that have been fibred up and that would be another way BT could provide a fibre service especially in rural areas. By this time I was having a dizzy blonde moment, so it really did all fall on deaf ears.

He said that BT are very serious with these fibre rollouts and at least in my area (East London) have advanced plans for FTTP. He reckons he and most of his colleagues will be out of a job within 5 years as most of their work is related to dealing with problems with copper lines and fibre services will make all what he does redundant. He thinks BT/Openreach will abandon/sell off most off their infrastructure once FTTH take up gets popular.

FOr those tech folks out there, can a fibre be split (or whatever the terminology is) from a pole to a premises?

[Zee]

@Horizon thanks, that was interesting, like you im not so techy so lets wait for someone who is to come a long

[craigj2k12]

Originally Posted by Horizon

FOr those tech folks out there, can a fibre be split (or whatever the terminology is) from a pole to a premises?

I think the fibre on demand product coming is to pay for fibre to replace the copper connection which currently comes from the cabinet. Fibre splitting is possible but I dont think that will be happening

[qasdfdsaq]

From what I've heard FTTP areas are getting GPON-type fibre which will be split anyway as it's part of how the technology works.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by Horizon

As I was saying on another thread, I recently had a chat to a Openreach tech on this very subject. Unfortunately, much of what he said fell on deaf ears as I'm not very savvy on the tech details of stuff.

He said that BT/Openreach are hoping the bulk of the costs of the rollout of FTTP will fall on small business' (SMEs). My limited understanding of what he said is that the fibre will be blown to all poles in a given area and linked back to the node/cabinet with extra fibres going back to the exchange from the node. The bulk of this cost will be bourne by the SMEs. So that when a resident "demands" FTTP the fibre is taken from the pole closest to the house wanting it. I thought the fibre could only be split at nodes, so I'm really not sure how this will all work. He pointed to a pole further down my street which has power going into it and said at least one pole will have power in every street and that's "key" to their plans, then all the other poles could be removed if that's what BT wanted to do.

When I mentioned costs, he laughed when I asked if BT intend to charge residents £1000+, he reckons a few hundred at most.

He was also talking about BT putting transmitters on the poles that have been fibred up and that would be another way BT could provide a fibre service especially in rural areas. By this time I was having a dizzy blonde moment, so it really did all fall on deaf ears.

He said that BT are very serious with these fibre rollouts and at least in my area (East London) have advanced plans for FTTP. He reckons he and most of his colleagues will be out of a job within 5 years as most of their work is related to dealing with problems with copper lines and fibre services will make all what he does redundant. He thinks BT/Openreach will abandon/sell off most off their infrastructure once FTTH take up gets popular.

FOr those tech folks out there, can a fibre be split (or whatever the terminology is) from a pole to a premises?

his latter comment probably has some truth in it as the copper lines have high fault rates. Although there will still be many areas with no FTTx services.

[craigj2k12]

so any updates, im keen to see how infinity is getting on! :P

[qasdfdsaq]

See http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35385335-post52.html :P

I've still not got my proper stable setup, so no long-term plots or tests since my IP changes every few hours without an actual router. Will report back once it's actually done - I'm recompiling router firmware as we speak so should be sorted in a day or two.

[Chrysalis]

my concern is why does your ip keep changing?

[qasdfdsaq]

PPPoE, I have to dial-in every time I want to use the connection, and it disconnects every time I put my machine into standby. It gets a new IP whenever I reconnect. If I had a router that stayed connected it would stay the same the whole time.

[Chrysalis]

ok thanks for the explanation.

[Zee]

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

so any updates, im keen to see how infinity is getting on! :P

Very good, getting 30Mb down and 6Mb up, line checker says 36Mb down and 5.9Mb up so im quite pleased so far, only thing i recommended to people is if you use P2P, maybe Infinity is not a good choice for you, and you may want to stick with Virgin or wait for Sky Fibre.