Coming Soon to Virgin TV

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by sherer

maybe if they had a HD exclusive channel on VM and if VM did the same with a few more channels then instead of VM having about 10% of the viewers of Sky that figure might change to be more in VMs favour and therefore increase their profit

doesnt work like that, and it cost virign to much to do it. just get over it ther enever goign to be a any exculsive to virign

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

no point in only launching on virginnthey would not get neough viewers for it they need sky

Yes, but if VM showed Setanta HD, Sky would want it too, wouldn't they? If Setanta really want to launch an HD channel and Sky aren't interested, launching it on VM would make Sky sit up and take notice.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, but if VM showed Setanta HD, Sky would want it too, wouldn't they? If Setanta really want to launch an HD channel and Sky aren't interested, launching it on VM would make Sky sit up and take notice.

Wont work like that, for setenta to launch one they need the sky viewers unless virgin get 1 million hd viewer it wont be worth it

[Arthurgray50@blu]

It never makes sense to me, when people talk about VM launching Setanta Hd, would make Sky sit up and take notice, VM have insisted that they won't increase there HD content, it would be on Sky before VM took it, at the present moment VM are sitting on the wall, for adding more channels, and are about two years behind, all the other broadcastors, VM, have to improve the channels service, before they can take on the other services.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, but if VM showed Setanta HD, Sky would want it too, wouldn't they? If Setanta really want to launch an HD channel and Sky aren't interested, launching it on VM would make Sky sit up and take notice.

Would they? Sky don't even retail Setanta channels on satellite (and its unclear if the European Commission would prohibit it) so there is nothing to indicate they would pay up for an HD channel for their own subscribers who also pay £12.99 to Setanta.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

It never makes sense to me, when people talk about VM launching Setanta Hd, would make Sky sit up and take notice, VM have insisted that they won't increase there HD content, it would be on Sky before VM took it, at the present moment VM are sitting on the wall, for adding more channels, and are about two years behind, all the other broadcastors, VM, have to improve the channels service, before they can take on the other services.

They have no plans to take sky on with tv get over it

[tvtimes]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

the hd channel wouldnt be part of the xl package it be adduiotnal sub.

plus setenta acutally get more than that for each xl customer it a special deal between then and virign adn it gets them more viewers

It was widely reported that if VM hadn't signed that £40m deal with Setanta, Setanta would of most certainly have gone bankrupt. They really needed that money from cable to keep themselves going after the over bidded for packages etc.

Setanta and VM seem to have a good relationship going.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by tvtimes

It was widely reported that if VM hadn't signed that £40m deal with Setanta, Setanta would of most certainly have gone bankrupt. They really needed that money from cable to keep themselves going after the over bidded for packages etc.

Setanta and VM seem to have a good relationship going.

In essence that was what i was trying to say. They got and get more money from virgin than the £2.50 per viewer

[tvtimes]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

In essence that was what i was trying to say. They got and get more money from virgin than the £2.50 per viewer

Yeah i know, i was backing you up.

[Andrewcrawford23]

I really need to learn to read and understand meanings :s

[Arthurgray50@blu]

As VM have this good relationship with Setanta, it wouldn't surprise me, if Setanta were not the secret company, that has offered 600 million to buy VM, now wouldn't that be a challenge for Sky, and Setanta, are not worried by the challenge to take Sky on.

[Andrewcrawford23]

it aint it germany company looking to expand in the uk market but it only interest doubt they will make abid

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23

In essence that was what i was trying to say. They got and get more money from virgin than the £2.50 per viewer

Only in dubious maths is a deal worth around £40m deal not the same as around £2.50 per XL subscriber.

£2.50 * around 1.4m subscribers * 12 months = £42m.

[Andrewcrawford23]

Originally Posted by jfman

Only in dubious maths is a deal worth around £40m deal not the same as around £2.50 per XL subscriber.

£2.50 * around 1.4m subscribers * 12 months = £42m.

mmm it doesnt work like that. it more ocmplex than just divide the maoutn oaid by the subscrinber, they get more money on top of that, they got 40 million to so all xl viewers got it as part of the package.

[tvtimes]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

As VM have this good relationship with Setanta, it wouldn't surprise me, if Setanta were not the secret company, that has offered 600 million to buy VM, now wouldn't that be a challenge for Sky, and Setanta, are not worried by the challenge to take Sky on.

That won't happen mate, Setanta are on the bread line as it is. They couldn't afford to buy VM and visa versa. I think ESPN will eventually buy Setanta out.