Virgin Media 70, 150 & 200 Mb Upgrades - Page 12

Ignitionnet · 02-09-2015, 10:21

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

My channel frequencies are 46200000, 32600000, 39400000 Hz.

I guess all those upgrades will enable speed increases and capacity for dedicated channels for WiFi. Hopefully, it will follow that we get our speed boost and WiFi early on in the roll out. I know it doesn't really work like that.

Yeah, thought as much. You are probably on a network with a 5-50MHz upstream band, and a 54MHz - 750MHz downstream band. Standard extended DOCSIS build.

VM's new build is 5-85MHz upstream and 108MHz-1002MHz downstream, with a field replaceable module upgrading that to (I think!) 5-230MHz upstream, 300MHz-1.3GHz upstream.

It's not necessary for the WiFi project, that will use relatively little bandwidth, but is certainly necessary to make room to go to from 8 to 16 and onwards to 24 DOCSIS 3 downstreams, let alone adding DOCSIS 3.1 into the mix.

roughbeast · 02-09-2015, 10:54

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Yeah, thought as much. You are probably on a network with a 5-50MHz upstream band, and a 54MHz - 750MHz downstream band. Standard extended DOCSIS build.

VM's new build is 5-85MHz upstream and 108MHz-1002MHz downstream, with a field replaceable module upgrading that to (I think!) 5-230MHz upstream, 300MHz-1.3GHz upstream.

It's not necessary for the WiFi project, that will use relatively little bandwidth, but is certainly necessary to make room to go to from 8 to 16 and onwards to 24 DOCSIS 3 downstreams, let alone adding DOCSIS 3.1 into the mix.

I'll watch out for changes after the day of the network upgrade work and post them here when they happen.

Channels beyond 8 is where SH3 comes in I guess.

Ignitionnet · 02-09-2015, 11:09

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

I'll watch out for changes after the day of the network upgrade work and post them here when they happen.

Channels beyond 8 is where SH3 comes in I guess.

There are already a bunch of areas with more than 8 channels and devices load balanced across them.

Obviously a newer modem is needed to take full advantage of all of them.

Kushan · 02-09-2015, 11:16

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

It's not necessary for the WiFi project, that will use relatively little bandwidth, but is certainly necessary to make room to go to from 8 to 16 and onwards to 24 DOCSIS 3 downstreams, let alone adding DOCSIS 3.1 into the mix.

Theoretical bandwidth of what, about 1.2Gbit? Yum!

alanbjames · 02-09-2015, 11:28

When is the Wifi projet due to start? I thought it was Sept 1st.

02-09-2015, 11:55

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Originally Posted by thenry

or go through thinking of leaving.

Just the nudge I needed to get round to calling them. Person I spoke to offered to upgrade me today to 100 if the area was ready! It was in March. Too little, too late. Downgraded to 50 service (never goes above 25 on a great day so why pay for extra), cancelled tv completely, saved £24/month.

Result.

roughbeast · 02-09-2015, 12:14

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Originally Posted by OhReally

Just the nudge I needed to get round to calling them. Person I spoke to offered to upgrade me today to 100 if the area was ready! It was in March. Too little, too late. Downgraded to 50 service (never goes above 25 on a great day so why pay for extra), cancelled tv completely, saved £24/month.

Result.

When all the network upgrades are done and the speed boost roll out is complete will you not be tempted to review your position?

02-09-2015, 12:35

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

When all the network upgrades are done and the speed boost roll out is complete will you not be tempted to review your position?

95% of the tv we watch is bbc/itv anyway, the rest we can download, usually months before they are shown here.

When it's done we'll end up on 100 anyway, there only are 2 of us living here, 2 desktops, 2 laptops. We don't do gaming so that'll be more than enough, in reality 50 is more than enough.

My mobile is already unlimited anything, when my wife's contract is up for renewal and we get unlimited everything we'll ditch the phone line as well.

So I guess the answer is no, not really

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

When all the network upgrades are done and the speed boost roll out is complete will you not be tempted to review your position?

Just for a laugh I ran the speedtest again 1.62/0.38

On a 60 meg connection, that's pathetic.

and for comparison, connecting to Galaxy S5 mobile hotspot - 11.57/1.91

adduxi · 02-09-2015, 12:55

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Originally Posted by Mr K

25GB on a game ! Manic Miner on the ZX Spectrum only took up 48Kb - still haven't finished it after 30 years...

Ahh, many happy memories, ZX Speccy!! ... Never finshed Jet Set Willy or Manic Miner

roughbeast · 02-09-2015, 13:18

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Originally Posted by OhReally

95% of the tv we watch is bbc/itv anyway, the rest we can download, usually months before they are shown here.

When it's done we'll end up on 100 anyway, there only are 2 of us living here, 2 desktops, 2 laptops. We don't do gaming so that'll be more than enough, in reality 50 is more than enough.

My mobile is already unlimited anything, when my wife's contract is up for renewal and we get unlimited everything we'll ditch the phone line as well.

So I guess the answer is no, not really

Fair enough. Your main reasoning is that you don't need the speed, or the phone or TV, not so much that VM is pants.

Kushan · 02-09-2015, 13:33

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Originally Posted by OhReally

95% of the tv we watch is bbc/itv anyway, the rest we can download, usually months before they are shown here.

When it's done we'll end up on 100 anyway, there only are 2 of us living here, 2 desktops, 2 laptops. We don't do gaming so that'll be more than enough, in reality 50 is more than enough.

My mobile is already unlimited anything, when my wife's contract is up for renewal and we get unlimited everything we'll ditch the phone line as well.

So I guess the answer is no, not really

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Just for a laugh I ran the speedtest again 1.62/0.38

On a 60 meg connection, that's pathetic.

and for comparison, connecting to Galaxy S5 mobile hotspot - 11.57/1.91

Have you reported the fault?

02-09-2015, 14:18

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Originally Posted by roughbeast

Fair enough. Your main reasoning is that you don't need the speed, or the phone or TV, not so much that VM is pants.

1.62/0.38? I'd call that pretty rubbish!

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Originally Posted by Kushan

Have you reported the fault?

When I spoke to VM this morning the lady ran some sort of check and said that everything looks ok.

Ignitionnet · 02-09-2015, 14:22

Anyone remember when this thread discussed October's broadband tier upgrades rather than a person's broadband fault?

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Originally Posted by Kushan

Theoretical bandwidth of what, about 1.2Gbit? Yum!

Yes. Could probably sell 600Mb quite happily on 24 downstreams.

spiderplant · 02-09-2015, 14:29

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Originally Posted by OhReally

When I spoke to VM this morning the lady ran some sort of check and said that everything looks ok.

And then what happened?

02-09-2015, 14:38

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

And then what happened?

Then I cancelled the TV, downgraded to 50 and saved 24/month...connection is still rubbish.

Which I expected, it's still the same cable coming from the same cab after all.

@Ignitionnet - it's not about my "fault" I apparently don't have one. I was *originally* pointing out that rather than make pointless promises about headline speeds they would be better served fixing the current network to make it robust and reliable.