Will you buy The Sun on Sunday?

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by marko

High praise, mate, coming from you. If only you knew . . .

Sorry but if you are still insisting that the paper only came together in 7 days then you are delusional as it is not possible in the real world.

It has been planned for months as that amount of work and preparation takes time and effort.

If a certain Mr Murdoch read these posts he would be laughing up his sleeve because some people have fell for the hype.

Even if you are an employee and you believe this I wonder at the kind of staff employed and what criteria they are using to recruit them, I also wonder is the vehicle below driven by any of those new employees.

[Chrysalis]

It was probably decided the same moment the decision was made to stop the NOTW.

Originally Posted by Peter_

Sorry but if you are still insisting that the paper only came together in 7 days then you are delusional as it is not possible in the real world.

It has been planned for months as that amount of work and preparation takes time and effort.

If a certain Mr Murdoch read these posts he would be laughing up his sleeve because some people have fell for the hype.

Even if you are an employee and you believe this I wonder at the kind of staff employed and what criteria they are using to recruit them, I also wonder is the vehicle below driven by any of those new employees.

All they had to do was add the words "Sunday" and "on" to the title page ,print some stories that didn't get used the previous week and bob's your uncle the Sun on Sunday is born all the staff where already in place

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Chris

The point of the comparison was to show that it isn't difficult to do something new at short notice, even if that new thing is outside of the norm for the organisation concerned.

However, producing a newspaper is the same process, regardless of whether it's a regional or a national title. The national title requires more staff to make it happen but the process is not new; it is well understood and not at all complicated for an organisation with sufficient staff and expertise to pull off.

I'm surprised you're not already aware of this, given your family connections.

It is easy to pull off on a local level, where the logistics are in place, and it only takes paying overtime to staff to do another press run.

However with a national paper it takes a huge amount of logistical organisation. Although the print run probably isn't any more of a problem than it is for a local paper.

I'm not saying it would be impossible, but it would cause many problems. It would be very nieve of anyone to think that senior management hadn't been planning this for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

It was probably decided the same moment the decision was made to stop the NOTW.

I think you are probably right. Many people (including myself) predicted it on that very day. So it certainly didn't come out of the blue for senior management.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by martyh

All they had to do was add the words "Sunday" and "on" to the title page ,print some stories that didn't get used the previous week and bob's your uncle the Sun on Sunday is born all the staff where already in place

It was not an unplanned event by a very long chalk otherwise no one would have even advertised in the rag.

Originally Posted by Peter_

It was not an unplanned event by a very long chalk otherwise no one would have even advertised in the rag.

Probably was planned or at least the idea has been floating around since the NOTW closed but the point Chris is making and i would bow to his expertise in this matter is that from taking a decision to print the paper on a sunday to actually having a viable paper would probably only take a few days because the staff ,news items,advertisers and infrastructure where already in place

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by martyh

Probably was planned or at least the idea has been floating around since the NOTW closed but the point Chris is making and i would bow to his expertise in this matter is that from taking a decision to print the paper on a sunday to actually having a viable paper would probably only take a few days because the staff ,news items,advertisers and infrastructure where already in place

No way was it decided to print in less than a week not unless they had help from the A-Team.

[marko]

Originally Posted by Peter_

Sorry but if you are still insisting that the paper only came together in 7 days then you are delusional as it is not possible in the real world.

It has been planned for months as that amount of work and preparation takes time and effort.

If a certain Mr Murdoch read these posts he would be laughing up his sleeve because some people have fell for the hype.

Even if you are an employee and you believe this I wonder at the kind of staff employed and what criteria they are using to recruit them, I also wonder is the vehicle below driven by any of those new employees.

I give up, mate. I really do. For something closer to the truth, see martyH's posts. As I originally said, staff piled in at a moment's notice to produce the first new paper. It was on a day they were supposed to be off, so plans were cancelled, arrangements trashed, and all those who could practically come in made themselves available. I'm not saying plans for the paper weren't made in advance - it's a reasonable assumption that they were. But when the starting gun was fired it came as a genuine surprise to most, if not all, and staff were required instantly to rally round, which they did. It really shouldn't be that hard to understand, Peter, but you're making extremely heavy weather of it. Anyway, no point falling out - life's too short!

Originally Posted by Peter_

No way was it decided to print in less than a week not unless they had help from the A-Team.

You do realise that it's not a new paper as such it is effectively just a sunday run of the weekday paper

Originally Posted by Peter_

No way was it decided to print in less than a week not unless they had help from the A-Team.

The very most senior staff will have had the date in mind for some time. The point is, it is not necessary from a production point of view to tell all the staff what's planned some time in advance.

Don't be fooled by the dribbling of those who haven't been there - modern newspaper production is an efficient, scalable process. This was entirely within the means of a large, wealthy company like NI and its large, skilled workforce.

[snowey]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

No. I won't be buying this paper.

Me to.......

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Chris

The very most senior staff will have had the date in mind for some time. The point is, it is not necessary from a production point of view to tell all the staff what's planned some time in advance.

Don't be fooled by the dribbling of those who haven't been there - modern newspaper production is an efficient, scalable process. This was entirely within the means of a large, wealthy company like NI and its large, skilled workforce.

We are all just speculating. The only people who know for sure are those in senior management at the Sun (unless of course a newsagent is going to tell us that they knew weeks ago).

Chris says it would in theory have been possible to do it all in a week. But most of us believe it was planned a long time ago....does it really matter? The fact is that one gutter press Sunday paper has just been replaced with another.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by snowey

Me to.......

Add me to that.

Originally Posted by denphone

Will you buy The Sun on Sunday?


The simple answer is no.

i did buy it on sunday..

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Its a Tory paper, and l hate anything associated with the Tories.