03-05-2017, 11:35
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by pip08456
If Tony Blair is the yardstick it doesn't take much to get better, certainly better than Cameron so far.
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There's been Gordon Brown and David Cameron in between, so I would say good PMs can be found at the rate of about 1 in 3 at that rate. Working back in time, that's about right on average.
Blair was good as a PM, although you might not have liked his politics, and his ability to win elections with substantial majorities proves that he was popular at the time. However, many are now judging him on his crucial misjudgement on the Iraq war.
People might be judging him differently now had there also been a plan for the peace after the war, but I think the absence of such a plan was more down to the Bush administration, who were inept to say the least.
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03-05-2017, 11:58
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Blair was good as a PM, although you might not have liked his politics, .
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He wanted then, and does even more so now, mass immigration. Enough said.
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03-05-2017, 12:17
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Still alive and fighting
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
She's the best Prime Minister since Tony Blair and the best Conservative PM since Margaret Thatcher.
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Personally l am not impressed with her as everything she says she then contradicts by doing totally the opposite but then most politicians seem to have that disease it seems.
The one thing with Maggie even though l was not a great fan of her was she was strong which is something modern politicians despite big waving placards and slogans are not IMO as that is just pure utter ******** unless one believes everything they see or read..
As for Mr Blair well l think we know what is going to be on his epitath when he dies.
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tory for me i have this thing in my head that says we need a strong and stable government
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Pure rubbish dreamed up by her advertising spin doctors IMO.
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your right it's none of my business that you vote labour
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Whoever one votes for is their own personal private business but whoever one votes for they should be respected for their decision whether they vote for the Tories , Labour , The Libs , UKIP or the Monster raving loony party as IMO childish insults by a very small minority lower the tone of what should be reasoned adult debates on the important issues of the day.
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03-05-2017, 12:30
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vox populi vox dei
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by denphone
Personally l am not impressed with her as everything she says she then contradicts by doing totally the opposite but then most politicians seem to have that disease it seems.
The one thing with Maggie even though l was not a great fan of her was she was strong which is something modern politicians despite big waving placards and slogans are not IMO as that is just pure utter ******** unless one believes everything they see or read..
As for Mr Blair well l think we know what is going to be on his epitath when he dies.
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Pure rubbish dreamed up by her advertising spin doctors IMO.
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Whoever one votes for is their own personal private business but whoever one votes for they should be respected for their decision whether they vote for the Tories , Labour , The Libs , UKIP or the Monster raving loony party as IMO childish insults by a very small minority lower the tone of what should be reasoned adult debates on the important issues of the day.
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03-05-2017, 12:41
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by denphone
Whoever one votes for is their own personal private business but whoever one votes for they should be respected for their decision whether they vote for the Tories , Labour , The Libs , UKIP or the Monster raving loony party as IMO childish insults by a very small minority lower the tone of what should be reasoned adult debates on the important issues of the day.
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Nothing truer than that.
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03-05-2017, 13:51
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Re: June 8th General Election
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03-05-2017, 14:16
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Re: June 8th General Election
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that's the ban the bomb /cnd' i'll never press the red button corbinista slogan
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03-05-2017, 15:10
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Re: June 8th General Election
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that's the ban the bomb /cnd' i'll never press the red button corbinista slogan
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My mistake; I apologise unreservedly. My faith in you is restored .
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03-05-2017, 16:35
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by passingbat
He wanted then, and does even more so now, mass immigration. Enough said.
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Lets not forget the education system as well he screwed that over
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03-05-2017, 16:54
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Re: June 8th General Election
Labour have done that for years! Anyone remember ITA?
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03-05-2017, 17:16
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by passingbat
He wanted then, and does even more so now, mass immigration. Enough said.
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Correct it was New Labour's grand social engineering exercise - gerrymandering on a national level.
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07-05-2017, 10:03
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Re: June 8th General Election
Appalling performance from Jeremy Hunt on Marr. He admitted no Brexit deal would be a disaster for the NHS (think the PM might want a word with him !). Bumbling all over the place on everything else too, unable to defend increasingly failing targets, how he still in the job?
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07-05-2017, 10:18
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Appalling performance from Jeremy Hunt on Marr. He admitted no Brexit deal would be a disaster for the NHS (think the PM might want a word with him !). Bumbling all over the place on everything else too, unable to defend increasingly failing targets, how he still in the job?
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So the usually invisible Jeremy Hunt actually turned to gives us more obfuscation and lies.
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07-05-2017, 10:25
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Appalling performance from Jeremy Hunt on Marr. He admitted no Brexit deal would be a disaster for the NHS (think the PM might want a word with him !). Bumbling all over the place on everything else too, unable to defend increasingly failing targets, how he still in the job?
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did he mention bupa ?
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07-05-2017, 10:36
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Re: June 8th General Election
McDonnell was on Marr's show earlier banging on about the merits of Marxism.
That'll go down well in middle England...
I don't know can you imaging a more motley crew leading the Labour circus than Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott and Thornbury?...
They make the likes of Kinnock look inspirational
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