TiVo : Tivo Update - Can someone post a video of it? ( 15.2 )

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by Tod

Why wouldn't red button work from the update? Where has the thinking come from that it needs a further update from the update to work??

It could work when the update is fully rolled. We will have to wait and see

The content partners ie BBC, Sky Sports could developing the red button on the pilot software as we speak to make sure it works when the update is fully rolled out

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by Tod

Why wouldn't red button work from the update? Where has the thinking come from that it needs a further update from the update to work??

They have stated that the update adds support for Red Button and that doesn't mean that Red Button is launching with the update.

Technically it already supports Red Button EG. ITV has an overlay menu with a link to ITV Player.

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

They have stated that the update adds support for Red Button and that doesn't mean that Red Button is launching with the update.

Technically it already supports Red Button EG. ITV has an overlay menu with a link to ITV Player.

But the developers could be using the pilot software to develop the red button ? whenever it launches.

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by HD Boy

But the developers could be using the pilot software develop the red button ? whenever it launches.

The pilot group isn't being used to test ongoing development, ongoing development is being tested elsewhere.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

Technically it already supports Red Button EG. ITV has an overlay menu with a link to ITV Player.

I think everyone is getting a bit hung up on the 'Red Button' bit

There are two things covered by Red Button

1) Small apps and links to other areas. As you say, these are available now e.g to iPlayer and ITV Net Player / X Factor voting

2) Full Red Button services including multiple video streams etc

It's the second set that will need the 15.2 update as far as I can see. If I had to guess why it would be down to the need to be able to tune to different cable TV streams within the app. All the existing apps use the broadband connection for video

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

I think everyone is getting a bit hung up on the 'Red Button' bit

There are two things covered by Red Button

1) Small apps and links to other areas. As you say, these are available now e.g to iPlayer and ITV Net Player / X Factor voting

2) Full Red Button services including multiple video streams etc

It's the second set that will need the 15.2 update as far as I can see. If I had to guess why it would be down to the need to be able to tune to different cable TV streams within the app. All the existing apps use the broadband connection for video

Personally I think all Red Button services on TiVo will be delivered on TiVo via apps.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

Personally I think all Red Button services on TiVo will be delivered on TiVo via apps.

But can't see Sky Sports alternate video (for instance) being streamed over the broadband connection tho - so although they'll still be a TiVo app they must be able to access the 'live' channels

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

ongoing development is being tested elsewhere.

That is what i meant to say.

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

But can't see Sky Sports alternate video (for instance) being streamed over the broadband connection tho - so although they'll still be a TiVo app they must be able to access the 'live' channels

Do we know if apps can't stream a feed from a tuner? Are app completely sandboxed?

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

Do we know if apps can't stream a feed from a tuner? Are app completely sandboxed?

To be honest don't know one way or the other.

I did say it was a guess

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

Do we know if apps can't stream a feed from a tuner? Are app completely sandboxed?

The BBC iplayer App does not use a tuner so i would assume it will be the same.

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

To be honest don't know one way or the other.

I did say it was a guess

Thinking about it the MSNBC app streams a live feed over the internet.

[HD Boy]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

Do we know if apps can't stream a feed from a tuner? Are app completely sandboxed?

Originally Posted by clinteastman

Thinking about it the MSNBC app streams a live feed over the internet.

Good thinking and it's actually called CNBC app

[clinteastman]

Originally Posted by HD Boy

Good thinking and it's actually called CNBC app

Your right!

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by clinteastman

Your right!

and that never happens