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Old 20-09-2016, 22:03   #631
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Labour is not the party that used to be. I wont vote for them again while Corbyn is in charge
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I agree. My fear over Brexit is damage to the economy and chances of jobs et rather than leaving the institution itself. If we could avoid the former I wouldn't care, probably even approve, of the latter. Although I also want to retain the right to work across Europe....
Well said, I feel the same plus I think it's to late, 10 years ago I supported leaving Europe but the damage is already done and was starting to rectify itself, doing it when we did was like shutting the door after the horse bolted.
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Labour is not the party that used to be. I wont vote for them again while Corbyn is in charge
bring back tony thatcher er i mean Blair
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When/If Corbyn wins. then what?
are they going to do some work so to speak. or are they going to carry on bickering?

pathetic the way the party has turned out. Corbyn may as well be an ageing rock star that is fighting for his position. does he sing?
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Old 22-09-2016, 21:38   #635
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I think its an almost certainty that Corbyn will win the battle. BUT, he will never be PM. The public wont have it.

Corbyn is not prepared to take on the major issues that the working class are talking about.
Bedroom Tax, Food Banks which have now become a major issue in the UK.

The working class of this country deserve better that a prat like Corbyn.

I would say by Xmas, we will have another party to take on Labour - within the party.

Labour cannot keep running like it is. We are well behind in the surveys.
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Old 23-09-2016, 11:57   #636
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

You get the politicians you vote for via the ballot box. They want to split themselves between Corbyn and UKIP that's their call. Hope they enjoy seeing their welfare cut and income taxes rise.

The 'metropolitan elites' are going to get bored of paying the bills in a country that hates them and continuing to fulfill their side of a broken social contract at some point.
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

Labour is:

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"as far away from power and changing the country for the better than at any point in my lifetime"
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...ce-he-prepares

... according to Dave Prentis, General Secretary of the Unison trade union.
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Oh well Corbyn's beaten a third rate opponent and Labour have learned nothing. Quelle surprise...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37461219
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

And the farce continues, it used to be a little bit funny, but now...
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let the cull begin
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We might include you in that cull as well perhaps old boy.
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now the membership has spoken [again]it will be interesting to see what happens now within the party- another vote ?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...e-win-but-fac/

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We urge Labour MPs to heed the signal sent by the members - twice now in one year - about the direction they want for the party. This includes respecting and supporting the elected leader and his team; no more sniping, plotting and corridor coups.
That would be the Leader, who when he was a backbencher, voted against his own Party line over 500 times...
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I love this quote That would be the Leader, who when he was a backbencher, voted against his own Party line over 500 times...
don't worry in a couple of weeks their won't be enough left to fill the front bench
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle

It's no real surprise that Jeremy Corbyn has won because he is obviously popular with Labour party supporters.

However, Labour party voters seemed to have not realised that though Corbyn is popular with them he has to be popular with non-Labour voters too.

At general elections roughly 30% of voters vote Labour and roughly another 30% vote Conservative with the remaining 40% consisting of Lib-Dem, UKIP, Green and Independent candidate supporters.

To win an election it follows that both Labour and the Conservatives have to appeal to members of that 40% group in order to achieve victory. Given that is the case it is unlikely that a hard left or a hard right manifesto will win the day.

So it may well be that Jeremy Corbyn has won the battle to stay leader of the party, but unless things change, Labour will lose the war for the hearts and minds of voters in the middle ground.

It will be interesting to see what changes in policy and action are made as a consequence of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership victory especially as Labour has a major credibility problem with running the economy effectively and efficiently and is viewed by many as a lapdog of the unions.
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