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Old 13-12-2016, 22:06   #3211
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Far reaching consequences from brexit down Southend way

http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/...ut-of-control/
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Peers on the committee, due to report on Thursday, have been struck by the urgent need for financial institutions make decisions on their location because they cannot wait until 2019 to find out if they can access the single market from London.
It's quite simple, you tell the banks that if they relocate to Europe then the UK will not bail any of them out when they next get into trouble. They'll have to go cap-in-hand to their Brussels masters.
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More evidence of the Government's non-plan is revealed.

"Big Brexit decisions 'delayed until next year'
Important decisions on Brexit have been shelved until next year amid reports that key members of the Cabinet committee dealing with the issue are split on what to do, according to The Times.

The newspaper reports that decisions are expected to start being made before Article 50 is triggered in March, although some issues such as the customs union may be deferred until beyond then.

The European Union Exit and Trade committee meets every fortnight and has been given great influence by Theresa May.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...y-corbyn-live/

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It's quite simple, you tell the banks that if they relocate to Europe then the UK will not bail any of them out when they next get into trouble. They'll have to go cap-in-hand to their Brussels masters.
These aren't British banks so would not be bailed out by the UK anyway.
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Big decisions take time - I bet that if the PM started making such announcements now portions of the media would be banging on about how vitally important issues were being rushed through and more legal challenges would be mounted to slow it all down again. This is uncharted and extremely complex territory so who seriously expected anything other than for it to take time - probably a good deal more time than anyone envisaged. Such is the nature of momentous changes such as this.

The world's banks are so intertwined that we have no idea how much exposure British banks have to their foreign owned counterparts. When big EU banks start failing again there will be serious repercussions for our banks, the only issue is whether these problems will be lesser or greater and I reckon being inside the EU guarantees the latter.

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Brexit: 40% of US firms with British offices are considering relocating to the EU
Nearly 40 per cent of US businesses with a base in the UK say they are considering moving elsewhere in the EU because of Brexit, according to a report, warning that the vote to leave could also hit trade relations between Britain and America.

The survey by international law firm Gowling WLG also found that two-thirds of the 533 US firms polled said the UK’s vote to the leave the EU is already impacting investments choices in the country.

Food and beverage, life sciences and financial services firms were most likely to consider relocating whilst aerospace firms were the least likely, the survey has found.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7473251.html

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Big decisions take time - I bet that if the PM started making such announcements now portions of the media would be banging on about how vitally important issues were being rushed through and more legal challenges would be mounted to slow it all down again. This is uncharted and extremely complex territory so who seriously expected anything other than for it to take time - probably a good deal more time than anyone envisaged. Such is the nature of momentous changes such as this.

The world's banks are so intertwined that we have no idea how much exposure British banks have to their foreign owned counterparts. When big EU banks start failing again there will be serious repercussions for our banks, the only issue is whether these problems will be lesser or greater and I reckon being inside the EU guarantees the latter.
I agree it's important to do it right than do it quickly. That's a point I've been trying to make to those on this forum who wanted us to invoke Article 50 immediately. However, the article suggests that there are divisions holding up a firm plan, let's hope they sort matters out over a few Chrimbo sherries.
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Firms 'considering moving' - so what? Firms consider all sorts of things because they have to including scenarios which may never happen. I'd have thought due diligence would require executives to consider all factors which might affect their interests but considering them doesn't mean they're going to change anything. These things aren't mutually exclusive either so they might just as well be considering moving operations to the UK to avoid Trump's tax plans over there. Yes, there may well be firms which move operations to the EU/elsewhere and there'll be others which head in the other direction because they'll find doing business in the UK a lot cheaper and simpler.
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It's quite simple, you tell the banks that if they relocate to Europe then the UK will not bail any of them out when they next get into trouble. They'll have to go cap-in-hand to their Brussels masters.
Most of the banks they are discussing are not UK-based, so were not bailed out by HMG...

The major recipients of the bail-out in the UK were Lloyds and RBS.
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Most of the banks they are discussing are not UK-based, so were not bailed out by HMG...

The major recipients of the bail-out in the UK were Lloyds and RBS.
Yes. The banks in the referenced article are multinational investment banks.

The bailed out British banks Lloyds Banking Group, RBS, Bradford & Bingley and Northern Rock were primarily retail banks although RBS has a diminishing investment banking arm.
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Brexit: 40% of US firms with British offices are considering relocating to the EU
Nearly 40 per cent of US businesses with a base in the UK say they are considering moving elsewhere in the EU because of Brexit, according to a report, warning that the vote to leave could also hit trade relations between Britain and America.

The survey by international law firm Gowling WLG also found that two-thirds of the 533 US firms polled said the UK’s vote to the leave the EU is already impacting investments choices in the country.

Food and beverage, life sciences and financial services firms were most likely to consider relocating whilst aerospace firms were the least likely, the survey has found.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a7473251.html

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I agree it's important to do it right than do it quickly. That's a point I've been trying to make to those on this forum who wanted us to invoke Article 50 immediately. However, the article suggests that there are divisions holding up a firm plan, let's hope they sort matters out over a few Chrimbo sherries.
Remain moaners starting to actively DAMAGE UK economy with lies and fear-mongering

REMAINERS are "willing economic hardship" on Britain as they refuse to accept the public's decision to leave the European Union, experts say.

Politicians, campaigners and Europhiles are hoping to overturn the referendum result - and are doing so by damaging chances of Brexit success, a top economist has suggested.

In spurious survey after spurious survey and unfounded pronouncement after unfounded pronouncement politicians who didn’t like the Brexit result and businesses and banks with vested interests are trash-talking Britain and hoping for economic failure.

And some economists fear is starting to work.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/743...ot-court-cases
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Or, Brexiteers fearing sub-optimal results are setting up a straw man scapegoat in advance....
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Or, Brexiteers fearing sub-optimal results are setting up a straw man scapegoat in advance....
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Remain moaners starting to actively DAMAGE UK economy with lies and fear-mongering

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/743...ot-court-cases
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You need to stop believing everything you read papa.
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