50M Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS) - Page 24

pabscars · 08-05-2011, 13:17

I thought you had 50 Meg as well Igni, my bad

Ignitionnet · 08-05-2011, 13:29

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Originally Posted by pabscars

I thought you had 50 Meg as well Igni, my bad

Nah that was some random's cable modem I was monitoring in the same general area.

I got rid of 50Mb due to reliability issues.

craigj2k12 · 08-05-2011, 13:34

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Nah that was some random's cable modem I was monitoring in the same general area.

I got rid of 50Mb due to reliability issues.

isnt that illegal?

Sirius · 08-05-2011, 13:34

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Originally Posted by pabscars

That is really frustrating to see a line just down the road from me, running through the same equipment as me yet mines like this

Nice result Sirius none the less

Sorry to see you are still getting a hard time from your connection

Welshchris · 08-05-2011, 13:41

Since the T3 errors suddenly stopped again my connection seems ok.

Ignitionnet · 08-05-2011, 13:42

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11

isnt that illegal?

Why would pinging an IP address be illegal?

No, not in the slightest.

craigj2k12 · 08-05-2011, 13:53

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Why would pinging an IP address be illegal?

No, not in the slightest.

pinging an ip address a couple of times isn't illegal, but there has to be something against monitoring someone's ping 24/7, it effectively using someone elses connection without their permission

Ignitionnet · 08-05-2011, 13:59

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11

pinging an ip address a couple of times isn't illegal, but there has to be something against monitoring someone's ping 24/7, it effectively using someone elses connection without their permission

I'll repeat that it's not illegal to ping someone, even if it's done frequently.

If you can find anything within the law that suggests otherwise I'll be happy to stand corrected.

I'm not using their network without permission, WAN side ping is on, I have not circumvented any kind of security mechanisms to do so and am not causing degradation to their service, therefore no violation of Computer Misuse Act.

craigj2k12 · 08-05-2011, 14:03

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I'll repeat that it's not illegal to ping someone, even if it's done frequently.

If you can find anything within the law that suggests otherwise I'll be happy to stand corrected.

I'm not using their network without permission, WAN side ping is on, I have not circumvented any kind of security mechanisms to do so and am not causing degradation to their service, therefore no violation of Computer Misuse Act.

okay whatever, it would be pretty tough to prove in court i suppose lol

Bullstein · 08-05-2011, 14:18

This is my 50MB service, ok apart from the ping spikes (I haven't used Internet all day )
I have separate modem/router set up but am upgrading to 100MB and superhub on Friday

If it's crap I'll cancel it and stick with 50MB

craigj2k12 · 08-05-2011, 14:19

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Originally Posted by Bullstein

whats with the ups and downs? if it was permanently in the low bit, it would be amazing

Bullstein · 08-05-2011, 14:31

No idea m8

Even if I don't use anything the same pattern of it jumping up and down from 20-60ms happens continually

Wish it would stay in the low periods all day as gaming is perfect during the low periods

craigj2k12 · 08-05-2011, 14:33

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Originally Posted by Bullstein

No idea m8

Even if I don't use anything the same pattern of it jumping up and down from 20-60ms happens continually

Wish it would stay in the low periods all day as gaming is perfect during the low periods

i can imagine.

what router or modem combination are you using?

do you have anything else connected that might be causing it?

Bullstein · 08-05-2011, 15:07

I have the VMG300 modem with my own Netgear WNDR3700 router

Works well like I say but gaming suffers with the slightly unstable ping

And no, I don't have anything else connected to it. It's the same every day. Someone on the VM forums mentioned it might be that other users nearby are using theirs more during the spiky periods

Utilisation

Chrysalis · 08-05-2011, 16:28

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Well here you go, the red lines are where the PoS needed resetting due to getting unstable.

is there a reason you can think off why it looks like congestion building up at 3am then suddenly dissapears in an instant? I wonder if it had switched to qpsk on upstream and then back again. Also the rugged min latency that starts after midnight post shaping, I also wonder if you also have downstream congestion.

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11

okay whatever, it would be pretty tough to prove in court i suppose lol

pinging in that it denies service eg. a DOS or DDOS yes but something like the TBB monitor is perfectly legal.

People ping services like bbc.co.uk all the time without specific permission.

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11

whats with the ups and downs? if it was permanently in the low bit, it would be amazing

I commented on this in a previous post in this thread. In my view its to do with the vmng300 it seems to jump in between 2 modes in how it handles pings. If I run tests during a jump it is no significant difference from when it is really low, and is actually usually slightly better than when its low.

I can have tbb showing jitter of about 10ms then run pingtest.net and get 1ms, and I have posted pings on this forum numerous times lately showing very low jitter like on ignition's thread. So in my view when it jumps down thats the real jitter, and when it jumps up the operational mode changes to deprioritise the packets. What I have no idea on is if its the dir615 or the vmng300 as the vmng300 should simply be passing through the packets with no processing at all. However when I used the dir615 with my old 20mbit modem I did not see this pattern.