Application Throttling/Management - Page 17

Jelly · 05-09-2008, 09:17

The letters DPI have appeared in a hostname?

:conspiracy:

Fatec · 05-09-2008, 09:18

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Originally Posted by Jelly

The letters DPI have appeared in a hostname?

:conspiracy:

The M stands for module, you can work out what DPI stands for

It's not just some random address...

Sirius · 05-09-2008, 11:13

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Originally Posted by TraxData2

The M stands for module, you can work out what DPI stands for

It's not just some random address...

Correct that is a referance to a piece of Network equiptment. first name begins with A i would think. VM have admitted in the past that they have that equiptment, but said they were not using it.

Fatec · 05-09-2008, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Correct that is a referance to a piece of Network equiptment. first name begins with A i would think.

Then an L ?

Sirius · 05-09-2008, 11:17

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Originally Posted by TraxData2

Then an L ?

Ignitionnet · 05-09-2008, 11:21

*Imagines Alex Brown cheerleading with pom poms and stuff

Gimme an A, gimme an A, gimme an A L L, gimme an O, gimme an O, gimme an O... T! Yayyyy Allot!!!

You're all paranoid, it's purely there for usage stats collection!

Sirius · 05-09-2008, 11:32

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings

You're all paranoid, it's purely there for usage stats collection!

Usage collections of pink pigs flying overhead

Impz2002 · 05-09-2008, 12:34

i think there is alot of assumptions going on here. If VM start throttling certrain protocols im sure ofcom will have something to say about it !

Impz

Fatec · 05-09-2008, 12:36

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Originally Posted by Impz2002

i think there is alot of assumptions going on here. If VM start throttling certrain protocols im sure ofcom will have something to say about it !

Impz

Not an assumption at all, ALLOT is now active in 2 areas and is being used for application throttling...

And no, they wont...as its all in their FUP

Impz2002 · 05-09-2008, 13:00

well if this is true then it really does stoop to a new level of dodgy dealings. so trax can you give me an idea of which protocols are being throttled and what speed they are being throttled too? is there a threshold like with STM ? and do these area's still have STM ?

I am appalled at VM's motives they cannot go on selling a service and charging thier customers only to steal back a percentage of it to sell on to somebody else. its like selling someone a meal and then taking it off you while your still eating it and using some of it to make a sandwich for someone else and selling it on !

I am getting sick of it all. I hardly use my 20meg i am a light user prb only download about 20 gig a month so STM isnt an isssue to me but i still feel cheated by thier tactics !

Impz

05-09-2008, 13:15

throttled to 512k AFAIK torrents and newsgroups and online gaming will be affected by this

APS · 05-09-2008, 13:16

Not sure if this was reported elsewhere, but those who expect no application throttling or STM by ISPs might like to look at this article:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/02/bennett_fcc/

This reports that the FCC, in the USA, have told Comcast to stop underhand throttling etc, but to simply do things more straightforwardly and introduce volume charging for their net connections.

The headline of the article says it all though ("Why the US faces broadband price hikes") and that is if uncontrolled internet services are provided the price will go up...although proportionally and perhaps more fairly, for those who use more bandwidth.

Interestingly the FCC are not getting involved from the consumers standpoint but because of technical reasons which are debated in the article.

APS

Ignitionnet · 05-09-2008, 13:22

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Originally Posted by darthlinux

throttled to 512k AFAIK torrents and newsgroups and online gaming will be affected by this

Online gamiling?!?!

What on earth? Gaming is hardly a bandwidth hog so unless they are going to prioritise it that's crazy.

Fatec · 05-09-2008, 13:30

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Originally Posted by darthlinux

throttled to 512k AFAIK torrents and newsgroups and online gaming will be affected by this

Anything P2P is throttled down to 512K, this includes games which use p2p engine (wow for updates?)

The connection literally gets crippled if you open a p2p app and stays that way until you turn it off.

Usenet (even with SSL) gets throttled down to 512K also from 20/50Mbit.

No one knows the limits or rules as of yet.

It looks as if its turning out to be an all day/evening thing though.

05-09-2008, 13:33

3 millions disconnections coming Virgin Media's way dammit looks like rapidshare will become peoples new home