Unemployment is rising

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Lies, damn lies, statistics.

From the ONS data itself, although you won't see anyone talking about this as it's 'racist'.



Also from ONS data and I hope you'll hear plenty about this.





In short to describe this as good news is farcical, jobs are inevitably poorer quality, less hours, and are going to probably cheaper EU migrants rather than our own people, hence the welfare bill continues to rise.

This is an absolute unmitigated disaster, coalition are so horny over corporatist supply-side policy they're doing nothing to increase demand, quite the opposite their squeezing us through tax rises and entitlement cuts.

The only way there is going to be a increase in the number of decent jobs is when there is radical reform

[Ignitionnet]

While I'm thinking about it, from the BBC story this sums it up:

Across the UK, average earnings rose by 1.1% in the year to February, the slowest pace since the summer of 2010.

Mike Fetters, director at jobs website Totaljobs.com, said: "Today's figures flatter to deceive.

"Whilst on the surface they look rosier than those of the past few months, they hide a number of concerns - not least the staggeringly high levels of underemployment.

"We have seen the retail sector take another battering, with more closures announced, and concerns for the eurozone have resurfaced."

The wage increase is in the context of >3% inflation even by the government's absurdly rigged measures.

The joys of globalisation and the terrifying realisation that permanent growth is impossible as it's fundamentally a zero-sum game. We're losing our standard of living as it drops to meet those of upcoming economies, and the government is propping up asset and other prices through policy and money printing making us vastly poorer.

If any of the Tories on my Twitter feed try and spin this I shall take a delight in giving them my thoughts.

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

The only way there is going to be a increase in the number of decent jobs is when there is radical reform

Sorry, Alan, but that statement is a content-free soundbite, imho, along the lines of "Education, education, education" - it sounds as if it means something, but there is no substance behind it.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

The only way there is going to be a increase in the number of decent jobs is when there is radical reform

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

The only way there is going to be a increase in the number of decent jobs is when there is radical reform

different thread same rubbish

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Sorry, Alan, but that statement is a content-free soundbite, imho, along the lines of "Education, education, education" - it sounds as if it means something, but there is no substance behind it.

At least Blair inceased spending and standards in Education

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

There's no way for any government, of any colour, to be able to suddenly magic up a whole economy consisting only of well paid interesting jobs. It is a sad fact that most people do not have and can never acquire the skills to handle say architecture, computer programming, game design, brain surgeon or any number of challenging occupations and so will always be doing the boring mundane jobs that keep the country running.

We can't do without those jobs either: Baldrick the dung gatherer was an important man in his time, though bady paid, just as the trainee that dishes up your Big Mac or the guy painting the white stripes down your street.

In a global economy there will also be a tendency to level down the pay in most jobs towards the rates that are paid in say China. When those places become too expensive there's still the huge untapped cheap labour resovior in Africa.

You can't pull up the drawbridge and try to be insulated from the rest of the world. In that way you go (relatively) backwards like NK or Burmah. Russia has finally realised this but only now has stopped making Lada's based on a 60's Fiat design.

I don't really care to much about the job itself, only that it has a decent wage so that I can have a decent lifestyle

What I am calling for is global labour and wage (along with pension) standards so that no one is exploted and we all get a high standard of living even if it ends up in resulting in a global government

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

At least Blair inceased spending and standards in Education.

Standards??? Have you read the drivel that passes for a significant chunk of school leavers English or Maths these days?

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

What I am calling for is global labour and wage (along with pension) standards so that no one is exploted and we all get a high standard of living even if it ends up in resulting in a global government

Ah the broken record. I'd forgotten how hopelessly out of touch with reality it was.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

At least Blair inceased spending and standards in Education

O that's ok then we will forget about the lie that sent hundreds of men to the deaths. And his reckless spending started off the problems we have now

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Derek

Standards??? Have you read the drivel that passes for a significant chunk of school leavers English or Maths these days?



Ah the broken record. I'd forgotten how hopelessly out of touch with reality it was.

What about the Building for Schools programme, better test results etc, sure it is still not good enough, but it was better than Major for sure

Also you are wrong, I'm not the one who is out of touch with reality, but there are a lot of CF users who are

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Originally Posted by Sirius

O that's ok then we will forget about the lie that sent hundreds of men to the deaths. And his reckless spending started off the problems we have now

If you are talking about the Iraq War (which killed hundreds of thousands by the way), sure it might have been a lire, but at least the Saddam Government was gone, the only issue I have was that it was done very, vey badly

As for the "Reckless Spending", it was needed for the underinvestment of the Tory Government of 1979-1997 in public servcies

Also thw Economic crisis was most caused by Free Market Capitalism and Neo-Liberal Democracy (Which Blair kept!)

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

What about the Building for Schools programme, better test results etc, sure it is still not good enough, but it was better than Major for sure

The school building program was poorly managed ,poorly budgeted and a total mess ,and that was from a recent admission from Stephen Twigg

BSF delivered consistently poor value for money and savings of up to 30% could have been made, for example, by standardising the design of all new buildings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16566635

As for the "Reckless Spending", it was needed for the underinvestment of the Tory Government of 1979-1997 in public servcies

Yes we needed the investment but in a more controlled manner over a longer period and not in such a reckless manner

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by martyh

The school building program was poorly managed ,poorly budgeted and a total mess ,and that was from a recent admission from Stephen Twigg



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16566635



Yes we needed the investment but in a more controlled manner over a longer period and not in such a reckless manner

Like I said, it's is still not good enough and anyway, Labour did improve education to lets say the Tories of 1979 to 1990

But at least thery were spending (if rather badly)rather than not spend at all

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Like I said, it's is still not good enough and anyway, Labour did improve education to lets say the Tories of 1979 to 1990

But at least thery were spending (if rather badly)rather than not spend at all

I would sooner no spending took place than bad spending .Any government voted into power have a obligation to the public to spend the publics money wisely .To have the attitude that money can be spent with no proper oversight is ok because it's getting spent ,is 100% wrong and quite frankly the previous labour government ,more specifically the individuals involved, should be taken to task over much more than they have been .

[Tim Deegan]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

The only way there is going to be a increase in the number of decent jobs is when there is radical reform

How many posts have you said this in???.......Stop spamming....this isn't a political platform for you!!!!

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Labour did improve education to lets say the Tories of 1979 to 1990

As I said, try reading applications or forms submitted by recent school leavers. In a lot of cases they are a barely legible hodgepodge of poor spelling, terrible grammar and txt speak.

When migrants with English as a second or even third language can perform better than people who have gone through 10+ years of schooling in the UK you can see one reason employers would rather give them a job rather than a school leaver.

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

But at least thery were spending (if rather badly)rather than not spend at all

Yay! Solid gold toilet seats all round. Can't have any money left unspent.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by martyh

I would sooner no spending took place than bad spending .Any government voted into power have a obligation to the public to spend the publics money wisely .To have the attitude that money can be spent with no proper oversight is ok because it's getting spent ,is 100% wrong and quite frankly the previous labour government ,more specifically the individuals involved, should be taken to task over much more than they have been .

They did not 100% spend nadly and anyway most of it was in PFI, there have been improvements in Health, Education, Transport etc