Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"

[Mikey1981]

Also after this season there is only 4/6 episodes left of Entourage, so what else will SA have? HBO and AMC run very small seasons of shows, I feel there will be an awful lot of repeats to be shown and I reckon there will be complete days where there will be no new programming.

[devilincarnate]

I think that it would be good to wait and see what the viewing figures are when SKY ATLANTIC goes in to the variety pack in Sept and then maybe see what happens to the channel.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

What we have to look at here, is simply DO VM customers want channels ie like SAtlantic on the network, or is Mr Berkett, saying, l only want channels on the network if its good VM.

In the end its the customer, that Mr Berkett should listen too, its them that pays the bill at the end of the day.

What should happen is that VM should have channels that the consumer wants, like Sports, Docs, and drams, And this should be the customer choice. What l think could be happening here, is CAN l include it in the XL package, where the customer gets it within the normal price, or does he make it a premier channel where you have to pay for it.

I think this is what he is waiting for.

not at all Arthur, it's simply over-priced in VM's eyes, so they can't justify VM customers footing the bill for Sky's over-spend.

[borrissey]

They'll probably get True Blood when contract runs out with FX.

They should show OZ on there, I'd love to watch them again.

[WillPS]

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

I think that it would be good to wait and see what the viewing figures are when SKY ATLANTIC goes in to the variety pack in Sept and then maybe see what happens to the channel.

The vast majority of Sky subscribers take the variety pack, I doubt it'll make much difference.

[borrissey]

Maybe it was a mistake just having shows from HBO maybe they should of had HBO shows and others.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

it's simply over-priced in VM's eyes, so they can't justify VM customers footing the bill for Sky's over-spend.

Totallly agree with DF. I want Sky Atlantic, but VM shouldn't pay more than a fair price.

Sky probably though they were being really clever buying the exclusive rights to HBO content, thus blocking other providers from doing deals with HBO and leaving the only access via Sky.

Sky spent a fortune and the poor viewing figures have come back to bite them.

The question is, wheather Sky are prepared to absorb that money as it gives a "quality" aspect to their content or want to re-coop some of the money by selling access to it at a reasonabl price and so gaining more viewers and greater add revenues?

[borrissey]

I think VM should only do a deal if they can get both versions of Sky Atlantic though SD and HD.

[devilincarnate]

Originally Posted by WillPS

The vast majority of Sky subscribers take the variety pack, I doubt it'll make much difference.

Well said i thought that they still did the entertainment pack, shows how much i check SKY out now

[borrissey]

Maybe Sky Atlantic should show a of few Sky Movies Premier movies at the same time as them, that would up there viewing figures, draw them in and get them used to watching the channel.

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by borrissey

They'll probably get True Blood when contract runs out with FX.

They should show OZ on there, I'd love to watch them again.

FX and Channel 4 have True Blood tied up so Sky will not get it

[LexDiamond]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

What we have to look at here, is simply DO VM customers want channels ie like SAtlantic on the network, or is Mr Berkett, saying, l only want channels on the network if its good VM.

In the end its the customer, that Mr Berkett should listen too, its them that pays the bill at the end of the day.

What should happen is that VM should have channels that the consumer wants, like Sports, Docs, and drams, And this should be the customer choice. What l think could be happening here, is CAN l include it in the XL package, where the customer gets it within the normal price, or does he make it a premier channel where you have to pay for it.

I think this is what he is waiting for.

What you say and the reality are completely different. Look at the viewing figures for the channel. If you extrapolate those to VM then which customers should Mr Berkett be listening to? The vast majority or the tiny minority? Because so far this channel is showing no signs of being popular even by pay tv standards.

I'm sure that Mr Berkett values every customer but I doubt he is going to harm the interests of the majority of his customers by looking to please a niche and paying over the odds only to have this money diverted away from projects/content that would be of use to the majority.

If it doesn't go into the XL pack and isn't movies or sport by Sky I doubt Mr Berkett even cares. I very much doubt he is waiting to offer Atlantic as a premium channels because firstly this would mean every few months Sky invent something new and charge XL customers more just to have it and secondly Mr Berkett would look silly trying flog a channel for money when Sky couldn't do it for free.

[Chad]

SKY should re-brand SKY Atlantic to SKY Titanic. Everything that's had it's maiden voyage on Atlantic so far has sunk quicker than a luxury liner hitting an iceberg.

Looks like SKY need the assistance of a few tugboats to get her through some choppy water, us the Virgin viewers could be the tugboats to pull them to safety. All we need to hear is a humble mayday from SKY and not a demand for a ridiculous amount of money.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Chad

SKY should re-brand SKY Atlantic to SKY Titanic. Everything that's had it's maiden voyage on Atlantic so far has sunk quicker than a luxury liner hitting an iceberg.

Looks like SKY need the assistance of a few tugboats to get her through some choppy water, us the Virgin viewers could be the tugboats to pull them to safety. All we need to hear is a humble mayday from SKY and not a demand for a ridiculous amount of money.

hahahaha



very good

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Firstly, who knows how much Sky are charging for this channel, Secondly, we have the same situation as the basic channel problem, Sky have to make money out of everything they sell, So therefore they have to sell a channel at a reasonable price.

How much does a channel wholesale charge cost.