Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
26-03-2010, 10:57
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by saabmania2
i don't see the problem with your post, maybe it's because we are both an age that was expected to speak proper like lol!!, but i have to admit that this text speak really gets on my .... and if someone sends me a text message like it i don't reply to it.
it's just lazyness
Rant over!! but well done Sirius far saying what most of us are thinking
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sometimes though saying what you think here isnt a good idea lol I find myself having to just leave it
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29-03-2010, 09:46
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
Looks like they must have knocked the boxes off in my area as I have never seen so many Virgin Media employees as I have in the past week.
There are the construction crew digging up the street, canvasers going around the doors and general installers......it's crazy I see more of the Virgin Media employees than I do of my own family
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02-04-2010, 19:45
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Dodgy box!!
Was round a friends today, i didn't realise he had a dodgy cable box till he said. I told him "You do know they are being switched off soon don't you, and you will have to pay for it?"
He said it went down on wednesday and so did a load of others but he put a dongle in the back and it's back up and working!
It's a digibox branded box. The thing is our area was switched over on Wednesday but we haven't got our new cards yet. I told him about nagra 3 but he already knew all about it and he said that he's got a work round from a mate.
I thought nagra 3 was so far unhacked?
I'm confused, our area has gone over yet he's still using a chipped box?
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02-04-2010, 19:47
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Re: Dodgy box!!
In denial. Like most chipped box users. Once the new cards are in place it will be useless.
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02-04-2010, 19:47
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Re: Dodgy box!!
Nagra 3 is unhacked, quite simply if you haven't got the new card then your area isn;t switched over yet. What would have happened is probably a key change.. Once the encryption changes a simple dongle won't work..
Anyway there is a thread concerning the new cards and another for dodgy boxes, will move this thread into that one
Threads now merged
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02-04-2010, 19:56
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Re: Dodgy box!!
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Originally Posted by Kymmy
Nagra 3 is unhacked, quite simply if you haven't got the new card then your area isn;t switched over yet. What would have happened is probably a key change.. Once the encryption changes a simple dongle won't work..
Anyway there is a thread concerning the new cards and another for dodgy boxes, will move this thread into that one
Threads now merged
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My area must be switched over i have all the new channels, i have e4hd, scifiHD etc But no new card yet. I did say to him you'll need a new card. He has an samsung box, non v+ with a card and then the box plugged into it i think?
I did look for the dodgy box thread but couldn't find it after 3 pages.
I told him straight that he should pay for it like everyone else, he just thought it's very funny. Is it just coincidence that Wolverhampton switched over and his box went down temporarily?
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02-04-2010, 20:05
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
we,re on the new cards and got the new channnels but the chipped boxes in our area are still working. Is there something else still to happen which will scupper them.
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02-04-2010, 20:16
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by fuzhoudragon
we,re on the new cards and got the new channnels but the chipped boxes in our area are still working. Is there something else still to happen which will scupper them.
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I hope it aint been hacked already!!
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02-04-2010, 20:21
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
I suppose until your area has become NGTV, no new cards are sent out. In my case there was a good month gap between my area Luton became NGTV and me receiving my new card.
Going on this logic, unfortunately same of the pirates still have a few months left to watch, as there is still 50% of the network not on NGTV
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02-04-2010, 20:41
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
Remember this N3 system has been in us on the Euro sats for a couple of years and it's withheld upto any hacking attempt.. The new channels are not an indication of them going totally to the new system, if they had then anyone without a new card would NOT get any service
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02-04-2010, 21:04
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
1. Area Switches to NGTV
2. New cards are sent out to area
3. Once satisfied that everyone in that area has a new card for their legit boxes old encryption is switched off
4. Dodgy boxes in that area become door stops
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02-04-2010, 21:10
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by fuzhoudragon
we,re on the new cards and got the new channnels but the chipped boxes in our area are still working. Is there something else still to happen which will scupper them.
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Yes.
After the new cards are sent out they'll turn off the old encryption which will stop the boxes.
There's a period where both the old and new encryption run side by side, and during this time both the new cards, old cards, and dodgy boxes will all work. Once they start turning the old encryption off though (and they do it in phases taking out sets of channels at a time) then both the old cards and the dodgy boxes will cease to work.
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02-04-2010, 23:35
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Re: Dodgy box!!
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Originally Posted by tvtimes
Was round a friends today, i didn't realise he had a dodgy cable box till he said. I told him "You do know they are being switched off soon don't you, and you will have to pay for it?"
He said it went down on wednesday and so did a load of others but he put a dongle in the back and it's back up and working!
It's a digibox branded box. The thing is our area was switched over on Wednesday but we haven't got our new cards yet. I told him about nagra 3 but he already knew all about it and he said that he's got a work round from a mate.
I thought nagra 3 was so far unhacked?
I'm confused, our area has gone over yet he's still using a chipped box?
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May i just say again that N3 is unhacked anywhere in the world at this time. Using a card to circumnavigate the encryption is not a viable option with N3.
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Originally Posted by fuzhoudragon
we,re on the new cards and got the new channnels but the chipped boxes in our area are still working. Is there something else still to happen which will scupper them.
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Yes VM will ensure All Customers are on new cards then turn off the N1 encryption and then its door stop time for the dodgy boxes in that area.
And finaly a quote from a well known hacking site by one of there mods
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Important info regarding nagra 3
simple fact of the matter is this.
once your area goes over to nagra 3 and the older revisions are swiched off any box other than a payed for sub will cease to decode channels other than the terrestrial 1 to 5.
this includes after market boxes such as starview / kryptview and dreamboxes. it also includes modded original boxes and all cards from moscs to fun cards.
until nagra 3 is hacked this will not change. and for the record nagra 3 has been in operation on the european satellite networks for over 3 years so just because it's come to uk cable don't expect a over night solution.
any more threads opened asking the questions answered here will be closed and infractions will ensue.
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So i take it the mods on that forum are ****ed with all the How can i get my box working posts
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03-04-2010, 02:05
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
That is quite impressive to have an encryption that hasn't been hacked after a few years, didn'ty the studios spend millions on Blu ray security and that was defeated in just days?
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03-04-2010, 07:54
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
The spotty guy at the car boot sale that sells boxes with software on a disk will hack it in no time, hopefully spotty guy wont and we all get better service
Please tell me this includes knocking modems off, theres loads around here and they must be downloading NASA database
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