Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[lucevans]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

I felt like saying "I must be a bloody good scaremonger judging by the performance of Phorm's shares over the past 2 months." but alas I am polite and don't resort to personal attacks. Some might consider I am more professional than Kent and according to my badge, I am an IT Specialist so you better watch out

Alexander Hanff

I think you did the right thing and took the high moral ground, Alexander. I'd expect nothing less from you! Well done and I look forward to seeing how the BBC choose to pitch this...

[OldBear]

Originally Posted by lucevans

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O - "Opt-Out" - Phorm's business model to con the average UK internet user into surrendering their privacy for someone else's profit.
<snip>

O - "Opt-In" - Four letter word that must never be used by Phorm employees, PR teams or spin doctors.

[AlexanderHanff]

Didn't think I was going to make it home to be honest. Engine Management light came on on the dash just outside Harrow and it looks like my head gasket might be in need of renewing.

Alexander Hanff

[mark777]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Hrhrhrhr! You're enjoying this aren't you?

I get it. A bit like that Olympic logo - always changing. Something different every time.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

I felt like saying "I must be a bloody good scaremonger judging by the performance of Phorm's shares over the past 2 months." but alas I am polite and don't resort to personal attacks. Some might consider I am more professional than Kent and according to my badge, I am an IT Specialist so you better watch out
Alexander Hanff

Think of it as a boxing match in which you're well ahead on points. Keep on doing what you're doing. And thank you.

Originally Posted by mark777

I get it. A bit like that Olympic logo - always changing. Something different every time.

Sorta urban, dynamic, energetic and... crap?

[flashpaul]

I notice that over 12000 people have now signed the anti phorm petition !

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/

A certain 'Alex Brown' has also signed , I wonder if this is the senior network chap at VM ?

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by flashpaul

I notice that over 12000 people have now signed the anti phorm petition !

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/

A certain 'Alex Brown' has also signed , I wonder if this is the senior network chap at VM ?

...or related to the PM?

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Think of it as a boxing match in which you're well ahead on points. Keep on doing what you're doing. And thank you.

He really was very rude. I started driving to London at 8am this morning and walked from Earl's Court to Olympia because the underground was only every 30 minutes and I would have been 2 minutes late if I waited for the train. I literally shed blood today to make sure I arrived on time out of respect, the blisters on my feet are horrendous and I have Lederhose Disease in my right foot.

Kent lives in London and shows up 30 minutes late. There is no excuse for that, it was disrespectful of the BBC who were covering the ITSec event and therefore had a pretty busy schedule.

I could go on and on about his general attitude, the fact that pretty much every answer he gave to the BBC presenter was about Google etc. being evil and logging everything we do, irrespective what the question was that he was actually being asked. He referred to me countless times as a "scaremonger" "anti commerce" "paranoid" and a host of other personal attacks.

We were asked to turn our phones off just before they started shooting. I didn't do anything so Kent repeated it to me and I explain I have no cell phone. He laughed and I explained I cancelled my cell phone at Christmas as I wasn't happy with the changes to RIPA in October which require cell companies to log and retain more details on cell phone usage. So he kept bringing this up in the interview too, with comments like "how can you listen to a person who cancelled his cell phone because he doesn't like being spied on." I was forced to explain to Kent that actually, it has nothing to do with being spied on and that my decision to cancel my cell phone after 8 years was a political one. But still he kept bringing it up until Dan Simmons had to eventually step out from behind the camera and tell him to stop.

I wish there had been a live audience, I really do, his behaviour was appalling.

On the other side of the coin, the BBC guys were very pleasant, chatty and down to earth people. Was a pleasure to meet them all.

Alexander Hanff

[mark777]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Sorta urban, dynamic, energetic and... crap?

Well, yeah. I'll admit that with the olympic logo, but that's not what I meant.

Maybe there could be a graphic that spun up the "ISPy ... bit" with one of lucevans questions at random.

(Nice one BTW lucevans)

[lucevans]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

He really was very rude. I started driving to London at 8am this morning and walked from Earl's Court to Olympia because the underground was only every 30 minutes and I would have been 2 minutes late if I waited for the train. I literally shed blood today to make sure I arrived on time out of respect, the blisters on my feet are horrendous and I have Lederhose Disease in my right foot.

Kent lives in London and shows up 30 minutes late. There is no excuse for that, it was disrespectful of the BBC who were covering the ITSec event and therefore had a pretty busy schedule.

I could go on and on about his general attitude, the fact that pretty much every answer he gave to the BBC presenter was about Google etc. being evil and logging everything we do, irrespective what the question was that he was actually being asked. He referred to me countless times as a "scaremonger" "anti commerce" "paranoid" and a host of other personal attacks.

We were asked to turn our phones off just before they started shooting. I didn't do anything so Kent repeated it to me and I explain I have no cell phone. He laughed and I explained I cancelled my cell phone at Christmas as I wasn't happy with the changes to RIPA in October which require cell companies to log and retain more details on cell phone usage. So he kept bringing this up in the interview too, with comments like "how can you listen to a person who cancelled his cell phone because he doesn't like being spied on." I was forced to explain to Kent that actually, it has nothing to do with being spied on and that my decision to cancel my cell phone after 8 years was a political one. But still he kept bringing it up until Dan Simmons had to eventually step out from behind the camera and tell him to stop.

I wish there had been a live audience, I really do, his behaviour was appalling.

Alexander Hanff

Wow. What an a**hole. I'm usually prepared to give people the benefit of the doubt, but he really does sound like an unpleasant character. And this is the sort of person VM want us to trust to only intercept our data "anonymously"?
On the upside, perhaps this inexcusable behaviour on his part is a symptom that his business is falling down around his ears? (I believe he has a lot of money personally tied-up in Phorm, so if he's feeling vulnerable, maybe he's showing it...?)

[Kursk]

Alex, his behaviour seems a positive sign. I wonder when he will jump to his feet in exasperation and call you a luddite? Go and take a well earned rest my friend.

Originally Posted by mark777

Well, yeah. I'll admit that with the olympic logo, but that's not what I meant.

Maybe there could be a graphic that spun up the "ISPy ... bit" with one of lucevans questions at random.

(Nice one BTW lucevans)

Sounds v cool to me

[mark777]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

I wish there had been a live audience, I really do, his behaviour was appalling.

On the other side of the coin, the BBC guys were very pleasant, chatty and down to earth people. Was a pleasure to meet them all.

Alexander Hanff

I sincerely hope his shareholders do *NOT* remove him soon.

[AlexanderHanff]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Alex, his behaviour seems a positive sign. I wonder when he will jump to his feet in exasperation and call you a luddite? Go and take a well earned rest my friend.



Sounds v cool to me

Actually I was hoping he would plant me, I would happily take one on the chin for the opportunity to sue Phorm out of existence and given the school yard level of his behaviour I thought I might be in with a chance.

Alexander Hanff

[mark777]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Actually I was hoping he would plant me, I would happily take one on the chin for the opportunity to sue Phorm out of existence and given the school yard level of his behaviour I thought I might be in with a chance.

Alexander Hanff

Well, just remember he needs to visit the showers in the scrubs first, then take an HMG assisted flight out of the country.

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It's going to get nasty from now on I think.

[AlexanderHanff]

Oh I think I met Alex@Phorm too, Kent arrived with a chap from Phorm called Alex. Alex didn't say anything though other than hello and goodbye.

Alexander Hanff