Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
13-03-2012, 16:21
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan
I'm a businessman (not a student), and know how businesses work. So some of my comments are from my experience as a businessman. Other comments are from my experience as a consumer who actually used a superhub with no problems at all.
I haven't changed my story. But I have asked you to stop being agressive in your posts. There is no need for it, and it is extremely childish.
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You just changed your story again.
"I'm a consumer not a geek so I don't know"
"I'm a businessman so I know"
Lol.
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
So why is he obsessing about VM then?
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I'm doing a comparison of the this country's two biggest providers' "fibre optic" CPEs. A fair and impartial comparison is not "obsessing" over either.
One of the mods here asked me not to leave this site even after leaving VM, and as other mods keep saying, if you don't like a topic then leave the thread or use the ignore feature. I'm not forcing anyone to read anything.
If you're interested, great. If you're not, I'm not asking you to be.
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13-03-2012, 16:31
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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You just changed your story again.
"I'm a consumer not a geek so I don't know"
"I'm a businessman so I know"
Lol.
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I'm doing a comparison of the this country's two biggest providers' "fibre optic" CPEs. A fair and impartial comparison is not "obsessing" over either.
One of the mods here asked me not to leave this site even after leaving VM, and as other mods keep saying, if you don't like a topic then leave the thread or use the ignore feature. I'm not forcing anyone to read anything.
If you're interested, great. If you're not, I'm not asking you to be.
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You can't say fairer that that.
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13-03-2012, 16:31
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
You just changed your story again.
"I'm a consumer not a geek so I don't know"
"I'm a businessman so I know"
Lol.
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I haven't changed anything. My comments on the way businesses run are from my business experience. My experiences with the superhub are as a consumer using a superhub.
Even you must be able to understand this?
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13-03-2012, 17:15
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
It would be nice if we could keep all the bitching and bickering out of this thread, and let qasi provide the impartial information he was obtaining by his geekery, erm, investigations, which is now lost in the whole farrago of he said/no he didn't bolleaux.....
Just sayin'....
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13-03-2012, 19:08
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Or, and this maybe a novel idea, go to another provider entirely.It's not like there isn't plenty of choice these days..
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So why is he obsessing about VM then?
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Actually there is no choice for me just about.
As the competition to VM in my area is very poor, there is no FTTC in my area yet.
Please dont make things seem simpler than they are.
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13-03-2012, 19:32
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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Originally Posted by Hugh
It would be nice if we could keep all the bitching and bickering out of this thread, and let qasi provide the impartial information he was obtaining by his geekery, erm, investigations, which is now lost in the whole farrago of he said/no he didn't bolleaux.....
Just sayin'....
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Actually I would welcome that.However it seems to me that others climb on the bash VM and it's products bandwagon every time there is a thread about the superhub so the thread will end up being anything but impartial..
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13-03-2012, 19:36
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Actually I would welcome that.However it seems to me that others climb on the bash VM and it's products bandwagon every time there is a thread about the superhub so the thread will end up being anything but impartial..
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13-03-2012, 19:46
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
That's because Chris told us to call it a superhub, if it starts playing up again I'm not going to call it super. On a side note I've been traffic managed on my vmng so put the superhub in 5ghz mode and no reboot... yet
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13-03-2012, 20:54
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Actually I would welcome that.However it seems to me that others climb on the bash VM and it's products bandwagon every time there is a thread about the superhub so the thread will end up being anything but impartial..
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Who says a thread has to be impartial when that partiality is (in many cases) well founded?
For the record, I'm a satisfied VM customer having recently increased my spend with the company.
I bash that wretched Super Hub still because 18 months in and it is still seriously flawed as a router.
I only bash VM for the way it handles its customers, VM telling them little if anything of importance and allowing serious oversubscription to occur in many places.
And now we're seeing certain dispruptive and provocative members adding to the mix.
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13-03-2012, 21:04
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
Well I've had my Superhub since very early on and it works perfectly for me. No issues at all.
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13-03-2012, 21:10
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
It would be interesting to know how many of the people who slate the superhub have actually reported the problems (and I meand to a UK call centre). Or if people have just moaned about it on forums thinking that their possibly faulty superhub is woking as it is designed to.
Just a thought!
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13-03-2012, 21:19
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
Well thats one of the issues. It works perfectly "for me".
But for a piece of equipment that is the sole bit of kit now, it has to work for everyone. Its like having a car with cheap Chinese tyres. If you are trundling around all day they will be fine for you, but floor it and you will end up in a wall. Thank god we can use our own tyres and rely on other people to test and rate them.
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan
It would be interesting to know how many of the people who slate the superhub have actually reported the problems (and I meand to a UK call centre). Or if people have just moaned about it on forums thinking that their possibly faulty superhub is woking as it is designed to.
Just a thought!
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I got my VMNG30000000 re-activated because the hub was so poor.
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13-03-2012, 21:24
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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Originally Posted by Hugh
It would be nice if we could keep all the bitching and bickering out of this thread, and let qasi provide the impartial information he was obtaining by his geekery, erm, investigations, which is now lost in the whole farrago of he said/no he didn't bolleaux.....
Just sayin'....
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Having a think about this perhaps the title is not helpful.Maybe it should be labelled as an investigation? Then maybe the postings could actually about the investigation and not the usual bickering spats about the superhub?.
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13-03-2012, 21:25
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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Originally Posted by Skie
Well thats one of the issues. It works perfectly "for me".
But for a piece of equipment that is the sole bit of kit now, it has to work for everyone. Its like having a car with cheap Chinese tyres. If you are trundling around all day they will be fine for you, but floor it and you will end up in a wall. Thank god we can use our own tyres and rely on other people to test and rate them.
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But most people don't drive like a test driver, which is probably why the superhub is fine for most people.
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I got my VMNG30000000 re-activated because the hub was so poor.
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Maybe Stephen, or someone else who works for VM can explain why there is so much inconsistency?
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13-03-2012, 21:43
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Re: Battle of the Hubs - The Prequel
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Originally Posted by Tim Deegan
It would be interesting to know how many of the people who slate the superhub have actually reported the problems (and I meand to a UK call centre). Or if people have just moaned about it on forums thinking that their possibly faulty superhub is woking as it is designed to.
Just a thought!
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They offered to send a tech..... Doh, anyway I swapped the hub 3 times and gave up, it seems it's wifi related. On 5ghz mode it's been stable,2.4 it reboots. I'm at a stage I can now run 5ghz but I find the range of 5ghz not as good as the 2.4
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