Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Mick

Bollocks, we are being doubly screwed right now while we are still in that pile of garbage.

As long as we stay in a corrupted entity, we will always be screwed, that's why we are coming out and rightly so, especially when certain old pricks and their teams, in the EU are spending 5 figure sums to travel to other parts of the EU, I mean FFS, £24,000+ for a private air taxi for just one day, is taking the piss...



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7885326.html

This half a million Euros, is only a month's worth of travel expenditure, imagine a full year.

Politicians all over the world of all shades do it. They're all as bad as each other. Some of the travel expenses claimed by our politicians are ludicrous, e.g. 400 metre journeys being claimed for. Theresa May spent a fortune in the election, including £20,000 to get Arlene Foster home. Not to mention what Trump spends moving him and his entourage around.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

As long as we stay in a corrupted entity, we will always be screwed, that's why we are coming out and rightly so, especially when certain old pricks and their teams, in the EU are spending 5 figure sums to travel to other parts of the EU, I mean FFS, £24,000+ for a private air taxi for just one day, is taking the piss...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7885326.html

This half a million Euros, is only a month's worth of travel expenditure, imagine a full year.

Not great but the UK government is no better. Mother Theresa spent £20,000 on an RAF jet to send the DUPs Arlene home, on that long haul flight to Belfast. Good old magic money tree !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7819116.html

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Not great but the UK government is no better. Mother Theresa spent £20,000 on an RAF jet to send the DUPs Arlene home, on that long haul flight to Belfast. Good old magic money tree !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7819116.html

Asd usual you open your gob without checking the facts or actually reading the article you have linked to.

It did not cost the Government a penny for the flight.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Not great but the UK government is no better. Mother Theresa spent £20,000 on an RAF jet to send the DUPs Arlene home, on that long haul flight to Belfast. Good old magic money tree !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7819116.html

Yep that good old magic money tree seems only to be on the agenda when some have not developed convenient memory loss but when it suits their own political agenda.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Asd usual you open your gob without checking the facts or actually reading the article you have linked to.

It did not cost the Government a penny for the flight.

They only paid through the party when they were told it breached anti sleaze laws. She still splurged £20K on a local UK flight for her new chum when it should have cost a couple of hundred tops.

Originally Posted by Mr K

Not great but the UK government is no better. Mother Theresa spent £20,000 on an RAF jet to send the DUPs Arlene home, on that long haul flight to Belfast. Good old magic money tree !
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7819116.html

And? WTF has this got to do with corrupted EU ?

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Mick

And? WTF has this got to do with corrupted EU ?

You quoted an example of how the "corrupt" EU waste money on exorbitant travel expenses. It's been pointed out that it's the norm for politicians everywhere, doesn't make it right, but that's what they do.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by daveeb

You quoted an example of how the "corrupt" EU waste money on exorbitant travel expenses. It's been pointed out that it's the norm for politicians everywhere, doesn't make it right, but that's what they do.

Even when we exit Europe UK politicians will still have their noses in the trough whatever political persuasion they belong to sadly.

Originally Posted by daveeb

You quoted an example of how the "corrupt" EU waste money on exorbitant travel expenses. It's been pointed out that it's the norm for politicians everywhere, doesn't make it right, but that's what they do.

Difference is we can and are leaving one set of exorbitant politicians, on the other side of the channel. We can deal with the ones who are left on this side.

No wonder those EU Imbeciles are insisting on a high divorce bill. They can get stuffed as far as I'm concerned. Tory MP and Brexiteer, Jacob Rees-Mogg says we legally, owe nothing.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Difference is we can and are leaving one set of exorbitant politicians, on the other side of the channel. We can deal with the ones who are left on this side.

No wonder those EU Imbeciles are insisting on a high divorce bill. They can get stuffed as far as I'm concerned. Tory MP and Brexiteer, Jacob Rees-Mogg says we legally, owe nothing.

I wish we were leaving the exorbitant Ukip politicians in Europe but sadly they're probably coming home.
It's never been about what we owe legally though. It's about the balance between what the leaving country pays and the quality of the deal it gets. And the reputation of your country to honour the spirit of its agreements; useful if it wants to strike its own trade deals.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Tory MP and Brexiteer, Jacob Rees-Mogg says we legally, owe nothing.

Well if the The Hon Member for the Early 20th Century, says we owe nothing then guess we're covered.

However I think we over estimate our own importance. i.e we need a deal more than the EU does. Legality and reality are different things.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Mick

Difference is we can and are leaving one set of exorbitant politicians, on the other side of the channel. We can deal with the ones who are left on this side.

No wonder those EU Imbeciles are insisting on a high divorce bill. They can get stuffed as far as I'm concerned. Tory MP and Brexiteer, Jacob Rees-Mogg says we legally, owe nothing.

Well he certainly won't be suffering financially should we not cough up, then leave with no deal in place as a consequence.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I said 'virtual communist'. They are not there yet, but look at the way they are going. I don't think business leaders really view them as helpful at all, obsessed as they are with regulation and penalising success.

It is plain to see that they are stifling enterprise, and I think the majority of voters in this country see that.

One step along the slippery path...

There will be far more red tape and bureaucracy when we leave the EU and business readers are clever enough to realise this. That's why they wanted the country to remain in the EU.https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eferendum-vote

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

There will be far more red tape and bureaucracy when we leave the EU and business readers are clever enough to realise this. That's why they wanted the country to remain in the EU.https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eferendum-vote

Making unfounded statements again I see. Do you have anything that backs that up?

Originally Posted by Mr K

Well if the The Hon Member for the Early 20th Century, says we owe nothing then guess we're covered.

However I think we over estimate our own importance. i.e we need a deal more than the EU does. Legality and reality are different things.

They need us more like but the world is a big place, certainly bigger than EU could ever hope to be.

US, Canada, India, Japan and Australia all screaming for trade deals once we leave.

It's not all doom and gloom you would have us believe.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

There will be far more red tape and bureaucracy when we leave the EU and business readers are clever enough to realise this. That's why they wanted the country to remain in the EU.https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eferendum-vote

Typical BS story written in a pathetic anti-brexit rag. Mr K must have shares in those cretins.