The Pirate Bay is blocked
07-05-2012, 17:41
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Not having to pay for something....
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What a low blow!
You are not a believer of online privacy and security? (a rhetoric question...)
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07-05-2012, 17:44
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
But in this case, privacy and security have nothing to do with it. People want to access TPB to download "illegal" TV shows, etc.
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07-05-2012, 17:47
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by vmfriend
Ah so you pay for a VPN not to pay for something else = genius
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You do realise that P2P filesharing actually has legitimate uses. There are thousands of artists sharing their own copyrighted media. One of my servers in the UK runs a seedbox and trust me there's no copyrighted material on that. I also run a ShoutCast radio station and again all the music on there is from independent artists who own the copyright which I would argue is as good as anything the signed artists are doing in the genre. Infact I had to remove one of the artists CD's because he got signed.
How about 37GB of free music or maybe you want to watch a movie for free. I'll leave the reader ponder what films would now be available on the last site under sensible copyright laws, hint go on IMDB and type in 1982. (Note to mods these sites do not link to copyrighted material.)
Oh and VPN = privacy.
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07-05-2012, 18:00
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by _wtf_
You do realise that P2P filesharing actually has legitimate uses. There are thousands of artists sharing their own copyrighted media. One of my servers in the UK runs a seedbox and trust me there's no copyrighted material on that. I also run a ShoutCast radio station and again all the music on there is from independent artists who own the copyright which I would argue is as good as anything the signed artists are doing in the genre. Infact I had to remove one of the artists CD's because he got signed.
How about 37GB of free music or maybe you want to watch a movie for free. I'll leave the reader ponder what films would now be available on the last site, hint go on IMDB and type in 1982. (Note to mods these sites do not share copyrighted material.)
Oh and VPN = privacy.
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you might as well shout at the wind ,Torrents = illegal downloading to most people ,they forget or don't realise that P2P is a very efficient way of sharing files.
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But in this case, privacy and security have nothing to do with it. People want to access TPB to download "illegal" TV shows, etc.
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not all the time
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07-05-2012, 18:02
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by _wtf_
You do realise that P2P filesharing actually has legitimate uses. There are thousands of artists sharing their own copyrighted media. One of my servers in the UK runs a seedbox and trust me there's no copyrighted material on that. I also run a ShoutCast radio station and again all the music on there is from independent artists who own the copyright which I would argue is as good as anything the signed artists are doing in the genre. Infact I had to remove one of the artists CD's because he got signed.
How about 37GB of free music or maybe you want to watch a movie for free. I'll leave the reader ponder what films would now be available on the last site under sensible copyright laws, hint go on IMDB and type in 1982. (Note to mods these sites do not link to copyrighted material.)
Oh and VPN = privacy.
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_wtf_, what does your post have to do with VPN - which is what vmfriend was discussing.
Your example is how P2P can be used to access material legitimately - people appear to be asking how to access a VPN to access material which doesn't appear to have the copyright holders permission to be distributed; two completely different things.
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you might as well shout at the wind ,Torrents = illegal downloading to most people ,they forget or don't realise that P2P is a very efficient way of sharing files.
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not all the time
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No, not all* of the time....
*but probably a very large percentage of the time.....
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07-05-2012, 18:20
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
Will be really interesting to see stats for UK Pirate Bay and BitTorrent usage in the next few months.
Personally I'd say it has helped me discover even more useful BT sites to download from. While looking for the simplest and easiest way around the block I found lots of new sites and discovered a whole load of stuff to download I hadn't seen before. I suppose you become a bit myopic when you use just one or two sites all the time. Setting up Tor also gave me something to do over the weekend, although it turned out to be a ten minute job.
Thanks PRS.
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07-05-2012, 18:35
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by Hugh
No, not all* of the time....
*but probably a very large percentage of the time.....
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not going to deny that ,which takes me back to my earlier point of how illegal filesharing via TPB and other sites in the name of internet freedom has given the government the need or opportunity(depends on point of view)to censor the web.As has been mentioned already ,sites like TPB would be a fantastic platform for new artists of all genres but getting hijacked and used as a source for illegal music and films has ruined that .
Having said that it could be argued that the popularity of TPB is purely down to it's ability to supply said illegal files
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07-05-2012, 18:53
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Oh and VPN = privacy.
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From whom?
So your ISP can't monitor you but then your VPN provider can.
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07-05-2012, 19:13
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
There's VPN providers that have setup their network architecture so that they cannot identify who accesses what. It's not that they don't keep logs it's that the technology means multiple users share IP addresses or something similar.
It's also useful for circumventing your ISP's traffic management policies if that's what you want to do.
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07-05-2012, 19:24
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
Your ISP also had set up your network architecture so they cannot identify who accesses what, until the law told them they had to do otherwise.
VPN providers are still subject to the law.
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07-05-2012, 19:25
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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... but then your VPN provider can.
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Wouldn't that be an oxymoron!
Realistically I doubt that, currently, any VPN provider would be that interested in the cost of a full on monitoring system.
I've set up my own OpenVPN server and proxy server on a VPS in the UK. I don't know if or how much the VPS or dedicated server providers monitor traffic beyond that used for billing. I'm guessing they wouldn't be that interested unless the server came to the attention of the authorities. Maybe you know differently?
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VPN providers are still subject to the law.
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Yes but the law of the country the servers are in. The VPN providers I listed earlier do log in the countries that require it by law.
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07-05-2012, 19:33
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by martyh
not going to deny that ,which takes me back to my earlier point of how illegal filesharing via TPB and other sites in the name of internet freedom has given the government the need or opportunity(depends on point of view)to censor the web.As has been mentioned already ,sites like TPB would be a fantastic platform for new artists of all genres but getting hijacked and used as a source for illegal music and films has ruined that .
Having said that it could be argued that the popularity of TPB is purely down to it's ability to supply said illegal files
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In other words they brought in on themselves A good post, marty.
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07-05-2012, 19:51
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Your ISP also had set up your network architecture so they cannot identify who accesses what, until the law told them they had to do otherwise.
VPN providers are still subject to the law.
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Of their country yes. Depends where the internet access breaks out of and where the company is registered.
And also if there's no technical way they can do it you can't do anything; with ISP's it's pretty trivial.
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07-05-2012, 19:54
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by cook1984
Will be really interesting to see stats for UK Pirate Bay and BitTorrent usage in the next few months.
Personally I'd say it has helped me discover even more useful BT sites to download from. While looking for the simplest and easiest way around the block I found lots of new sites and discovered a whole load of stuff to download I hadn't seen before. I suppose you become a bit myopic when you use just one or two sites all the time. Setting up Tor also gave me something to do over the weekend, although it turned out to be a ten minute job.
Thanks PRS.
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Umm...
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bit...isnt-good-idea
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07-05-2012, 21:07
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
Look carefully and PB is not the only site blocked that evokes Virgins kind message.
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