Post-Brexit Thread

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by RBMark

Cameron has stated BREXIT WILL HAPPEN! So get over it Remainers and start working with us leavers,

The U.K. economy is in a position to withstand conditions worse than the most awful predictions.

I agree that the UK economy is better placed than it was.

But how will he guarantee that the next PM will implement Brexit given that so many MPs are opposed to it?

And how will he control the votes of MPs voting on any required legislation?

The only way Cameron can ensure Brexit is to tell EU leaders in his next meeting that we are activating Article 50 but he said he would leave that to the new PM.

[jamiefrost]

Originally Posted by RBMark

The U.K. economy is in a position to withstand conditions worse than the most awful predictions.

So where does this statement of fact come from?

At the same time which corner stones of the leave campaign are left?

Immigration, either it was never about that or we didn't really mean it depending on which part of the leave campaign you were part of.

Money, we didn't mean we were going to spend all the money we saved (not sure how much will be left after we pay for access to the single market or EEA).

Control of our borders, gone from we will reduce immigration to we just meant have control to now looking more likely to go back to (or carry on with depending on your view) free movement of labor if we want access to the single market of EEA.

J

[ntluser]

Originally Posted by jamiefrost

So where does this statement of fact come from?

At the same time which corner stones of the leave campaign are left?

Immigration, either it was never about that or we didn't really mean it depending on which part of the leave campaign you were part of.

Money, we didn't mean we were going to spend all the money we saved (not sure how much will be left after we pay for access to the single market or EEA).

Control of our borders, gone from we will reduce immigration to we just meant have control to now looking more likely to go back to (or carry on with depending on your view) free movement of labor if we want access to the single market of EEA.

J

I think George Osborne in his speech said the deficit had been knocked down from 11% of GDP to just 3%.

Mark Carney said that they had been planning for this possibility for months and had allocated £250 Billion pounds to shore up the economy.

We'll only know for sure about immigration when we hear what plan the new PM is going with and also what steps the government will take to ensure that areas with high immigrant populations are well resourced so that locals are not disadvantaged as well as what steps are to be taken to ensure better distribution of immigrants throughout the country.

If locals can get better, fairer access to schools, medical treatment and jobs hopefully that will ease the resentment towards immigrants.

[ianch99]

What we need is the Leave campaign leaders to come out with strong media messages deploring the spate of racism incidents that the vote has unleashed.

'Go back home' - Bitter backlash post EU referendum

I read this BBC article and feel sick at what some of the Leave supporters are doing on the back of this decision.

I know that Farage was cited as a racist and neo nazi when at school but even he should be making statements deploring this behaviour ..

[007stuart]

Mad cow disease outbreak in 1992 compared to the Leave vote. It's obvious what happened.

Originally Posted by 007stuart

Mad cow disease outbreak in 1992 compared to the Leave vote. It's obvious what happened.

I think people are trying to move away from nasty bullying tactics.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by ianch99

What we need is the Leave campaign leaders to come out with strong media messages deploring the spate of racism incidents that the vote has unleashed.

'Go back home' - Bitter backlash post EU referendum

I read this BBC article and feel sick at what some of the Leave supporters are doing on the back of this decision.

I know that Farage was cited as a racist and neo nazi when at school but even he should be making statements deploring this behaviour ..

Yes indeed as there are no excuses in my mind for any type of racism but we must not pigeon hole the vast majority of Leave voters who are not racist or bigoted at all as they made their decision for what they felt was in the best interests of this country going forward.

[ianch99]

Yes indeed as there are no excuses in my mind for any type of racism but we must not pigeon hole the 99% of Leave voters who are not racist or bigoted at all as they made their decision for what they felt was in the best interests of this country going forward.

Den, you misunderstand. I am *NOT* saying for one minute that the vast majority of Leave voters support this and I would be disappointed if you think I am.

However, without a strong condemnation from *all* the Remain leaders, the idiots who are doing this will feel that their actions are, in some way, legitimate.

[denphone]

No of course l don't think you are ianch as l quite agree in that all the main leaders of their political parties need to condemn in the strongest possible language any of sort of racism and violence.

[Ignitionnet]

I listened to the PM's statement on the referendum result and to a good hour and a bit of questions and answers afterwards.

It was interesting on many levels, not least of which being that he suggested the UK will know what kind of relationship it wants to seek with the EU before hitting the article 50 button.

Racists are ignorant knuckle draggers and are absolutely nothing to do with leave voters or in anyway represent them this is just their latest excuse to attack people and it's not like they need much. For the ones commiting racist acts it doesn't matter who condemns them because they don't care and I've seen it for myself as we had a card posted through our letterbox this afternoon telling us "to go home, your not wanted". I assume it was meant for my eastern European neighbours but I'm happy for them to think my house is the one so my neighbours don't have to deal with it.

Have had the same thing happen at least once a year so it's a bit of a ritual now pick it off the floor, look at it, laugh and put it in the bin. Racism is ever present in a very small minority and always will be there are no more racists this week then there were before the referendum.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

there are no more racists this week then there were before the referendum.

but there are a lot more racists incidents it seems.

[Mr K]

Just as well my pension isn't dependent on the stock market, FTSE 250 has fallen 14% in the last 2 days , the worst since 1987. Sterling is plummeting so we can say goodbye to holidays abroad, and a recession is predicted for 2017 which will be nice... Project Fear is proving very accurate so far.
Remind me what the benefits of leaving were? Money for the NHS? No that was a lie. Less immigration, apparently not. A lot who voted leave are scratching their heads today; for once they can't totally blame politicians.

[ntluser]

I often wish that there was some magic spell that would temporarily transform racists so that they would be forced into the footsteps of people who they detest in order that they could experience what racism is like when they are on the receiving end.

Maybe then they would understand better what it is like to be persecuted, disrespected, humiliated, ill-treated and hated.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I listened to the PM's statement on the referendum result and to a good hour and a bit of questions and answers afterwards.

It was interesting on many levels, not least of which being that he suggested the UK will know what kind of relationship it wants to seek with the EU before hitting the article 50 button.

So the exact opposite of what he was saying during the campaign .I certainly do not favour invoking A50 immediately if at all but you would think an experienced statesman like Cameron would know that invoking A50 without a plan going forward is just plain nuts