09-06-2017, 10:01
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
Interesting interview with Jeremy Corbyn on today's BBC Breakfast Time (08:44 today).
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"Interviewer
“Just to be clear, are you saying you’re the victors, and that you should be forming the next Government?”
Jeremy
“We put forward our policies, strong and hopeful policies, and they’ve gained an amazing response and traction. I think it’s pretty clear who won this election.
Interviewer
“So you should be forming the next Government?”
Jeremy
“We’re ready to serve the people who’ve given their trust to us”
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In other breaking news, Juventus are pretty clear who won the Champions League, and Tottenham Hotspur are pretty clear who won the Premier League...
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09-06-2017, 10:38
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Interesting interview with Jeremy Corbyn on today's BBC Breakfast Time (08:44 today).
In other breaking news, Juventus are pretty clear who won the Champions League, and Tottenham Hotspur are pretty clear who won the Premier League...
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Deranged, everybody lost this election.
Torys lost their majority.
Labour are still 60 odd seats away from getting a majority
SNP lost a third
Libdems still miles away from where they used to be.
This is can only go one way and that is another election.
May will have to stand down, we will need a new Tory Leader and a new manifesto.
The Tories can still come back from this. Revise their stance on social care, focus on Brexit and they win back.
This was a monumental campaign effort from labour and I don't think they would be able to improve on this result, but Torys certainly could.
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This is can only go one way and that is another election.
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Well that bold prediction lasted 10mins.
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09-06-2017, 10:51
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
Well let's and see. Can a Tory-DUP confidence and supply agreement (i assume that's what it is) with a majorty of 2-5 survive 5 years? Can May really stay as a strong and stable PM after that election?
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A journalist on Twitter has said this means no chance of boundary changes getting passed, I assumed they already had..
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09-06-2017, 11:08
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
It wont work, she'll get hammered at the despatch box every week.
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09-06-2017, 11:24
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
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Well let's and see. Can a Tory-DUP confidence and supply agreement (i assume that's what it is) with a majorty of 2-5 survive 5 years? Can May really stay as a strong and stable PM after that election?
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A journalist on Twitter has said this means no chance of boundary changes getting passed, I assumed they already had..
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So we will now have a "coalition of chaos" then?
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09-06-2017, 11:31
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
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So we will now have a "coalition of chaos" then?
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Pretty much. Not satisfactory at all.
To get through the next 5 years we needed a government with a strong majority.
The Tories have managed to royally screw that up, it's a collapse of monumental proportions and the blame goes to whoever wrote that manifesto and instead of focusing on Brexit decided to try and use the lead they had in the polls to shoehorn in a load of other stuff that was deeply unpopular with their core base.
The reason she was doing well in the polls was purely because of Brexit. She had been dropped in it and was making a decent fist of it and people appreciated that.
She called the election because of Brexit
But then failed to mention anything about Brexit in the manifesto.
They let Labour set the agenda and this is the result.
Brexit is still the no.1 issue facing this country. They need to get that back front and centre.
I worry, I really do.
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09-06-2017, 11:48
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
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Pretty much. Not satisfactory at all.
To get through the next 5 years we needed a government with a strong majority.
The Tories have managed to royally screw that up, it's a collapse of monumental proportions and the blame goes to whoever wrote that manifesto and instead of focusing on Brexit decided to try and use the lead they had in the polls to shoehorn in a load of other stuff that was deeply unpopular with their core base.
The reason she was doing well in the polls was purely because of Brexit. She had been dropped in it and was making a decent fist of it and people appreciated that.
She called the election because of Brexit
But then failed to mention anything about Brexit in the manifesto.
They let Labour set the agenda and this is the result.
Brexit is still the no.1 issue facing this country. They need to get that back front and centre.
I worry, I really do.
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Whoever came up with the manifesto should be sacked with immediate effect.
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09-06-2017, 11:49
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
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Whoever came up with the manifesto should be sacked with immediate effect.
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The voters already did that...
http://www.independent.co.uk/News/uk...-a7780536.html
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09-06-2017, 11:50
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
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Whoever came up with the manifesto should be sacked with immediate effect.
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Ben Gummer, and he yes lost his seat in Ipswich.
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09-06-2017, 11:52
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
I don't think focusing on Brexit is the answer. I think they went too hard on it and didn't offer much else. They did call it based on Brexit, one of the themes was that each vote would help her get a better deal and the last week of the campaign was focused almost entirely on it. In interviews May kept trying to pivot back to Brexit.
I think for a lot of people they wanted to know what else the Tories would do. May didn't campaign much, didn't go to debates and seemed to treat the electorate with contempt. That's what they should change.
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09-06-2017, 11:53
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
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Just because he lost his seat doesn't mean he will have no further involvement in party policy.
I'm happy he lost it though. Deservedly so, don't take the electorate as fools.
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09-06-2017, 11:54
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09-06-2017, 11:55
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
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Whoever came up with the manifesto should be sacked with immediate effect.
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Apparently she really only discussed it with her small inner circle rather then her full cabinet.
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09-06-2017, 11:57
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
Btw it's a bad result but you have to admire just how impressive a screw up that was. 20 points clear with great leadership ratings, against someone whose own party thought wasn't up to it and a landscape where the issues help you and you contrive to blow it ? Amazing.
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Btw May is responsible ultimately for the manifesto as well
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09-06-2017, 11:57
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Re: The Cable Forum 2017 Exit Poll
Sturgeon about to make a statement in the next 5 mins, should be interesting. Resignation???
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