26-06-2016, 15:36
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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If you had the News channel on as I do you would have heard her.
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The Scottish Government has conceded that they don't have a veto; a view supported by a number of legal experts.
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26-06-2016, 15:36
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Wonder if this is why they are not in a hurry to invoke A 50
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26-06-2016, 15:37
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Why bother with a referendum then; in fact why bother with democracy. If the elected representatives decide they can ignore the will of the people when they don't like it and just do what they want then how does that differ from a dictatorship?
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This is the stuff of rebellions. Where's Wat Tyler when you need him?
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26-06-2016, 15:38
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A swift comment on racism. No decent person is saying that people who voted to leave are racist, but sadly racists think 52% of the population agree with them.
This is the fault of those who played on the lowest common denominator fears of our population with thinly veiled xenophobia, and the small group that are racist. No-one else.
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26-06-2016, 15:40
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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So in the next general election is Labour win, can tories just ignore and stay in power?
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The difference is that a General Election has legal standing, the Referendum was advisory - so no, they couldn't...
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This is the stuff of rebellions. Where's Wat Tyler when you need him?
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26-06-2016, 15:41
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Wonder if this is why they are not in a hurry to invoke A 50
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There's no hurry to invoke article 50 because no-one really made plans for having to. The people at the top of Vote Leave weren't expecting to win, Downing Street wasn't expecting a vote to leave.
We're pretty much stalling for time to try and get our excrement together and work out what we're going to do from here.
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26-06-2016, 15:42
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Wonder if this is why they are not in a hurry to invoke A 50
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This is exactly why they are stalling invoking A-50, the Remainers in the current government will going through everything they can think of, legally, to get out of a Brexit. There will be total anarchy on the streets I suspect if we don't Brexit and Britian will never be united again,
Best thing is a Brexit with a united country working towards the correct deals.
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26-06-2016, 15:43
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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You know what I mean.
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26-06-2016, 15:46
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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You know what I mean.
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Well, considering the rebels were mostly killed, and all the concessions they were given were rescinded, not sure he was a good example...
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26-06-2016, 15:47
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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There's no hurry to invoke article 50 because no-one really made plans for having to. The people at the top of Vote Leave weren't expecting to win, Downing Street wasn't expecting a vote to leave.
We're pretty much stalling for time to try and get our excrement together and work out what we're going to do from here.
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there's talk on the news of not invoking it till January 1 2017
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26-06-2016, 15:49
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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You know what I mean.
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26-06-2016, 15:50
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Well, considering the rebels were mostly killed, and all the concessions they were given were rescinded, not sure he was a good example...
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That's what you get for trusting the establishment to keep their word.
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26-06-2016, 15:55
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Whilst we are still part of the EU, we should still have a voice in the EU. We have MEP's and their voices should still be heard. But the EU wouldn't like that of course, especially with eurosceptic groups starting to clamour for their own OUT referendums.
But our thoughts and wishes would probably be ignored as much as before.
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26-06-2016, 15:57
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Ignoring democracy? You're having a laugh right? What are remain doing accepting it?
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I am still buzzing with the result. I feel my original vote in 1975 has now been vindicated.
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Thats how I feel. I feel I`ve corrected a mistake made back then, when just before we sailed for the far east, the PO came into the mess, plonked a load of ballot papers down on the table and told us to put our mark in the yes box. I`m sure that wouldnt be allowed to happen nowadays.
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26-06-2016, 16:01
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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I'd hardly call 6% more for Leave in England a 'small' majority
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I was hoping for a much bigger majority something along the lines of the 1975 vote ,something a bit more conclusive
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I know we have some hard times ahead and if that means another year of austerity then so be it. .
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Assuming the result stands Austerity is over ,we will need spend fortunes to employ all the extra civil servants we just made redundant to do all the negotiating
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This vote has raised many questions on how the country was potentially misled
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Not very often we agree but on this you are spot on ,exaggeration ,misinformation and down right lies have been the mark of this campaign from both sides .I have tried to defend the leave side because that is my choice but the way they have managed themselves since the result was announced is deplorable and does the voters a great disservice .
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Boris seems befuddled and quiet, really don't think he expected to 'win' and have to deal with the consequences: winning wasn't part of his leadership plan.
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sounds like the Tories at the last election ,they promised the earth because they thought they would lose and not have to make good the promises
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So in the next general election is Labour win, can tories just ignore and stay in power?
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You're confused between an election and a referendum ,referendums are advisory
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