The Conservatives with a majority and.......

tweedle · 25-11-2015, 22:47

So the conservatives have a HoC majority and no electable opposition.

The lid-dems offer no threat, Labour are quite literally a unelectable joke and the "nasty right wing" Torys seem to be taking the middle ground. By the time Labour sort themselves out will the Torys be Right-Center right-and centre. With their policy's.

I see the Torys winning the next 2 elections at least. Opinions?

MalteseFalcon · 25-11-2015, 22:49

Suits me as long as Corbyn is leading Labour. I'm afraid at the moment it is a case of stick with the devil you know and not the devil you don't know.

denphone · 26-11-2015, 05:27

The Conservatives will win the next two elections full stop but the possible trouble with governments who stay in that long is they usually become arrogant and drunk with power and think they are untouchable and that's not good in my book and never has been as one needs a strong opposition and frankly we have not got that with the current nincompoops in charge of the Labour party.

Until Labour moves back towards the centre and get rid of some of their current dunderheads at the helm they have utterly no chance of being elected as yesterday they had a glorious chance to pin George Osborne to the ropes but my oh my they failed miserably in my book.

techguyone · 26-11-2015, 08:59

Really the only hope Labour has for the next election is if they get Corby to step down (I don't know how likely that is) traditionally they'd let him run for one GE then he'd step down if it was a complete whitewash, I believe, unlike the Conservatives that Labour have no way to 'force' the Leader out if he doesn't want to go.

Osem · 26-11-2015, 09:37

Frankly I don't think Labour were too sorry to lose the last election, aside from being wiped out in their traditional heartland of Scotland which looks like it will have serious long term ramifications for the party.

If Corbyn carries on in this vein (and why wouldn't he?), I can see the party splitting as more Labour MP's perceive their futures hanging in the balance even more so than when Brown and Miliband were at the helm . Labour would do well to exorcise the loony lefties and extremists amongst its ranks but will they? SDP#2 anyone?

If this carries on I reckon Corbyn will go down in history as the leader who destroyed his own party and if that's the case whose going to be the 'opposition' to the Tories?

rhyds · 26-11-2015, 13:29

If labour does split in to a moderate left and hard left party, then unless the tories do the same thing (centre right vs eurosceptic) the tories will be the only party left capable of commanding a majority on their own and not having to rely on a formal/informal coalition.

Even as an evil free market type chap, I wouldn't want that to happen

Osem · 26-11-2015, 13:37

Nor me, a credible opposition keeps HMG on its toes. Right now we don't have one.

adzii_nufc · 27-11-2015, 08:00

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34940728

The cracks are getting bigger. Labour are falling apart. Absolute madman.

rhyds · 27-11-2015, 08:02

And this is the party we expect, if they were to win an election, to form a government? At this rate they couldn't govern an ice cream van!

**Damien** · 27-11-2015, 10:36

I was wrong about Corbyn, this is the funniest thing I have seen in politics.

Also the prospect of Shadow Cabinet resignations is old news. Since then we've had:

McDonnell backing the IRA bombings in the 1980s:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/p...cle4625106.ece

Quote:

John McDonnell called for the “ballot, the bullet and the bomb” to unite Ireland at the height of the IRA’s terrorism campaign against Britain, The Times can reveal. The shadow chancellor also suggested, with black humour, that Labour councillors who refused to meet the IRA’s political wing should have their knee-caps shot off.

Diane Abbot saying 'Mao did more good than harm':

https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/670040250207596545

**Hugh** · 27-11-2015, 11:06

Up there with Ken Livingstone blaming Tony Blair for the 7/7 bombings (on Question Time last night).

Whilst my admiration for TB could be measured with a very small electron microscope, and I do hold him responsible (with GWB) for the cluster-frakk that was the Iraq War, I think Ken Livingstone gave the bombers a get-out-of-jail card (TB made me do it).

Personally, I blame the 7/7 bombers for blowing the people up.

downquark1 · 27-11-2015, 11:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien

I was wrong about Corbyn, this is the funniest thing I have seen in politics.

Also the prospect of Shadow Cabinet resignations is old news. Since then we've had:

McDonnell backing the IRA bombings in the 1980s:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/p...cle4625106.ece

Diane Abbot saying 'Mao did more good than harm':

https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/670040250207596545

I have to agree. Osborne u-turns on tax credits and reduces the austerity measures (as the left was calling for - perhaps rightly), so labour accuse him of betraying the electorate and start quoting chairman Mao. Talk about mixed messages.

TheDaddy · 27-11-2015, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1

I have to agree. Osborne u-turns on tax credits and reduces the austerity measures (as the left was calling for - perhaps rightly), so labour accuse him of betraying the electorate and start quoting chairman Mao. Talk about mixed messages.

I thought the message was clear, that the government is selling of large parts of our assets and infestructure to the Chinese, not sure why I remember McDonnell saying like he was in that chop suey song though

rhyds · 27-11-2015, 11:38

If McDonnell had stuck to saying that it would have been a great soundbite for online and TV news. Instead he decided to kick himself and his party square on in the nadgers.

Osem · 27-11-2015, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien

I was wrong about Corbyn, this is the funniest thing I have seen in politics.

Also the prospect of Shadow Cabinet resignations is old news. Since then we've had:

McDonnell backing the IRA bombings in the 1980s:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/p...cle4625106.ece

Diane Abbot saying 'Mao did more good than harm':

https://twitter.com/Jamin2g/status/670040250207596545

Well what do you expect from Clowns?

It's all too familiar to anyone who recalls the sort of antics loony lefties have got up to in places like Haringey, Tower Hamlets, Lambeth and Liverpool over the years. They never learn.