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Old 24-01-2017, 13:53   #1666
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Re: US Election 2016

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A few examples out of the many hundreds:-

Sexist - he expressed a preference for grabbing females by their genitalia. I'd say that is a bit sexist, unless he's said the same about men.

Racist - he claimed a judge was biased on account he was Mexican - a tad racist, particularly as the Judge was a US citizen....

Divisive - well just look at all the people taking to the the streets in the US. It's not to have 'Welcome to Donald' party.....
Where's the "agenda"?

By saying agenda you are implying that his administration has or will put forward policies that are sexist, racist and divisive, I have not seen any policies that are promoting those?

What you have posted above is not his agenda.
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Old 24-01-2017, 13:57   #1667
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Tut tut, you're just being argumentative for the sake of it.

Overcome your dog-with-a-bone character trait or your credibility will suffer in this faux heroic crusade against The Man.

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Old 24-01-2017, 16:38   #1668
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Divisive - well just look at all the people taking to the the streets in the US. It's not to have 'Welcome to Donald' party.....
No, I'd say the divisiveness is typical attitudes of large sections of the left NOT accepting the democratic result, they were suppose to champion the Democratic Party Candidate with slogans and chants of 'Love Trumps Hate', yet they have spewed nothing but hate-filled expletives and some have been violent, damaging property and smashing windows etc etc, all because he is the President. Just like we have the left here, some of them, not accepting Brexit and then slag off the vote leavers with suggestions of a lack of Education.... remind you of anyone close to home ?

You yourself, Mr K, have a very divisive attitude towards any one who voted for Brexit, so stop being a bloody hypocrite !

As for racism....Put it this way, if he was as racist as you and others make him out to be, then why did Martin Luther King III want and manage to have 'constructive talks' with him in the last few weeks to move forward with plans to make it fairer for African American people to vote ?

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"Because at the end of the day, the right to vote is not a Republican right or a Democratic right — it is an American right. If Trump enables more Americans to exercise that right in future elections, he will be able to say that in no small measure he really did make America great again."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.d8292df9f713
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No, I'd say the divisiveness is typical attitudes of large sections of the left NOT accepting the democratic result, they were suppose to champion the Democratic Party Candidate with slogans and chants of 'Love Trumps Hate', yet they have spewed nothing but hate-filled expletives and some have been violent, damaging property and smashing windows etc etc, all because he is the President. Just like we have the left here, some of them, not accepting Brexit and then slag off the vote leavers with suggestions of a lack of Education.... remind you of anyone close to home ?

You yourself, Mr K, have a very divisive attitude towards any one who voted for Brexit, so stop being a bloody hypocrite !

As for racism....Put it this way, if he was as racist as you and others make him out to be, then why did Martin Luther King III want and manage to have 'constructive talks' with him in the last few weeks to move forward with plans to make it fairer for African American people to vote ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.d8292df9f713
This illustrates a policy of Trump's which is divisive - banning US organisations from funding any overseas organisation that offers abortions, even if the organisation provides those services from their own funds.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...oping-contries

The Huffington Post lists 13 instances of Trump's racism. That doesn't mean that people like Martin Luther King III don't feel that it's better to work with him rather than against him. And I agree that it's a good thing to get more people out voting so credit to Trump there. And Trump may not have believed some of the racist comments he made.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b03260bf777e83

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This illustrates a policy of Trump's which is divisive - banning US organisations from funding any overseas organisation that offers abortions, even if the organisation provides those services from their own funds.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...oping-contries
Ah yes, that's to appease Mike Pence's God, one who doesn't seem to mind him using campaign funds to pay his mortgage.

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The Huffington Post lists 13 instances of Trump's racism. That doesn't mean that people like Martin Luther King III don't feel that it's better to work with him rather than against him. And I agree that it's a good thing to get more people out voting so credit to Trump there. And Trump may not have believed some of the racist comments he made.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b03260bf777e83
If only the republicans had a similar attitude of working together rather than putting their own interests first

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.960e99a9b32e
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Old 25-01-2017, 19:06   #1671
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Re: US Election 2016

Christ, he's only actually building the wall

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38740717

It'll be nice if he trains some honeysuckle and clematis up it...

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Christ, he's only actually building the wall

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38740717

It'll be nice if he trains some honeysuckle and clematis up it...
More likely berberis.

Well he did say American jobs for Americans. No doubt training up brickies as we speak.
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More likely berberis.

Well he did say American jobs for Americans. No doubt training up brickies as we speak.
Well they won't be signing up to be milliners under Trump that's for sure

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN1542YL

I actually thought it might be fake news at first, I'm sure it'll be passed of as it by the donald anyway
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Well they won't be signing up to be milliners under Trump that's for sure

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN1542YL

I actually thought it might be fake news at first, I'm sure it'll be passed of as it by the donald anyway
Except they were not the official hats but knock offs sold by street vendors.

You'd know that if you'd actually read the story you linked to.
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Re: US Election 2016

The Donald needs to think before he tweets...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/u...tion.html?_r=0
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I will be asking for a major investigation into VOTER FRAUD, including those registered to vote in two states.
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One of President Donald Trump's top advisers is registered to vote in two states – which the New York business man incorrectly classified as "voter fraud".

Stephen Bannon registered to vote in New York prior to the election, but he still is registered to vote in Florida. He cast only one ballot in New York....

....Incidentally, Mr Trump's daughter, Tiffany, is also registered in two states.

It is not illegal to register to vote in two states – only if more than one ballot is cast.
It's not illegal to be registered in two states, it's illegal to vote in two states..
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If there is massive voter fraud maybe they should rerun the election
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Ah yes, that's to appease Mike Pence's God
I think most Christians " god" is against abortion, not just Mike Pence's.

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Christ, he's only actually building the wall

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38740717

It'll be nice if he trains some honeysuckle and clematis up it...
I see nothing wrong with wanting to keep illegal immigrants out of the country.

We're the biggest hypocrites on this subject?

Would we be happy for all the residents of the Jungle to waltz over the channel and pitch up here? No.

We built our own wall, in Calais, and even moved our border into France to keep out illegals.
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Damien, l am totally in agreement with you. But what if its found out that it was votes for Trump. Then what will he do.

On building the wall. Its already angered many groups in America, claiming its racist. I can happen here.

The tenders will go out, contractors will employ cheap labour. And they will get Mexicans and Immigrant's to build the wall.
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I think most Christians " god" is against abortion, not just Mike Pence's.[COLOR="Silver"]
Strange how his god didn't stop him benefitting from gambling, you'd think being such a committed Christian that's happy to drive women already in troubled circumstances into back street abortion and has never so much as bought a lottery ticket would baulk at receiving millions on behalf of his party from such evil men. You can only hope that some of that unclean cash was amongst the campaign funds he used to pay his mortgage

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-cap...after-campaign

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The tenders will go out, contractors will employ cheap labour. And they will get Mexicans and Immigrant's to build the wall.
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If there is massive voter fraud maybe they should rerun the election
Can't re-run 2012 Election as that would breach 22nd Amendment. Voter fraud was not just a problem in 2016 Election.

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Damien, l am totally in agreement with you. But what if its found out that it was votes for Trump. Then what will he do.

On building the wall. Its already angered many groups in America, claiming its racist. I can happen here.

The tenders will go out, contractors will employ cheap labour. And they will get Mexicans and Immigrant's to build the wall.
Getting a little bit sick of the left saying border control is racist : No it is not racist. A border is a border FFS.
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