Corbyn's kerfuffle

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Apparently Corbyn's account was true according to the other passengers, you know the people that were actually there.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ind...android-h3g-gb

Or fans of his making excuses. I would take CCTV evidence over testimony from others. You can see it yourself. He walks past empty seats, shoots the video, goes back to the seats. All before the train reached it's first stop.

[Osem]

Some folks really are desperate to support Corbyn the clown aren't they...

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Those CCTV pictures showing the empty seats must have been faked, then...

What you mean those pictures that could well have been illegally released

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57...b042aee74dca3e

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Originally Posted by Damien

Or fans of his making excuses. I would take CCTV evidence over testimony from others. You can see it yourself. He walks past empty seats, shoots the video, goes back to the seats. All before the train reached it's first stop.

I'm really not that interested, I'm more interested in a labour leaders lies getting people killed than this bs, politician doesn't quite tell truth shocker

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

What you mean those pictures that could well have been illegally released

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57...b042aee74dca3e

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I'm really not that interested, I'm more interested in a labour leaders lies getting people killed than this bs, politician doesn't quite tell truth shocker

illegal or not doesn't matter ,they still show what really happened

it may well be bs but put it all together with everything else the bloke has fubard it is not a good place for the leader of HMG opposition to be in

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I'm really not that interested, I'm more interested in a labour leaders lies getting people killed than this bs, politician doesn't quite tell truth shocker

But Corbyn not being a politician is his biggest selling point. His slogan was 'straight talking, honest politics'. Every time he makes one of his tone-deaf gaffs, poor PMQs performances or misses open goals against the government his fans will tell us that this is because he isn't a politician who spins.

If Corbyn has spent the last year taking the moral high ground it's going to news when he falls from it.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by martyh

illegal or not doesn't matter ,they still show what really happened

it may well be bs but put it all together with everything else the bloke has fubard it is not a good place for the leader of HMG opposition to be in

To give him credit where it's due, at least he's made Miliband look a bit better...

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

illegal or not doesn't matter ,they still show what really happened

it may well be bs but put it all together with everything else the bloke has fubard it is not a good place for the leader of HMG opposition to be in

So law breaking doesn't matter but telling a fib does, interesting perspective on rule breaking you have.

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Originally Posted by Damien

But Corbyn not being a politician is his biggest selling point. His slogan was 'straight talking, honest politics'. Every time he makes one of his tone-deaf gaffs, poor PMQs performances or misses open goals against the government his fans will tell us that this is because he isn't a politician who spins.

If Corbyn has spent the last year taking the moral high ground it's going to news when he falls from it.

You think that's why it's caused a kerfuffle then, because people fell for his act and got their pants pulled down, more fool them for trusting him

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

So law breaking doesn't matter but telling a fib does, interesting perspective on rule breaking you have.

How about you run along and try and twist my words a bit more

You suggested(in reply to Hugh) that the fact the cctv may have been obtained or released illegally somehow changes the facts ,it doesn't, there where still empty seats and Corbyn is still a lying SOB .

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

How about you run along and try and twist my words a bit more

You suggested(in reply to Hugh) that the fact the cctv may have been obtained or released illegally somehow changes the facts ,it doesn't, there where still empty seats and Corbyn is still a lying SOB .

And now those facts are bring questioned to by people that were there, on top of the video quite possibly not being legal so I'd say it changes things. Why you so angry marty, you weren't one of the people taken in by him were you? There's no shame in it if you were, I had high hopes for him to at one point.

[Mr K]

The 'story' is a pathetic irrelevance. There is an agenda to get Corbyn, from all quarters, from both inside & outside politics. The timing of all this, as voting papers go out, is interesting. It won't make a difference, quite the opposite. People are fed up of the Tory and Blairite Westminster clique, only interested in their own careers/power at whatever cost. If there was a genuinely good alternative then go for it. Owen Smith isn't it.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

And now those facts are bring questioned to by people that were there, on top of the video quite possibly not being legal so I'd say it changes things. Why you so angry marty, you weren't one of the people taken in by him were you? There's no shame in it if you were, I had high hopes for him to at one point.

Doesn't change a thing ,how could it ? a fact is a fact regardless of the dubious illegality of the releasing of the CCTV .That is a very weak argument .There where 100 different ways to get the point across RE overcrowded trains and every single one of them would do it better and more honestly than the way Corbyn did it .Next time he has a point to make how do we know he hasn't fabricated facts to support his point

I haven't been a labour supporter since never

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by martyh

Doesn't change a thing ,how could it ? a fact is a fact regardless of the dubious illegality of the releasing of the CCTV .That is a very weak argument .There where 100 different ways to get the point across RE overcrowded trains and every single one of them would do it better and more honestly than the way Corbyn did it .Next time he has a point to make how do we know he hasn't fabricated facts to support his point

I haven't been a labour supporter since never

Why you so angry then, shouting and cursing. People actually being there on the train corroborating his story calls the facts into question imo and questioning the cctv legality isn't weak, if they've broken the law releasing it who is to say they haven't doctored it as Hugh jokingly suggested, their integrity is in question every bit as much as Corbyn's imo

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

So law breaking doesn't matter but telling a fib does, interesting perspective on rule breaking you have.

As an attempt at deflection this is mildly amusing. The legality of the release is a separate issue, worthy of its own discussion. It does not, however, alter any of the facts of last week's incident.

Corbyn lied. His team lied. They have spent the last 48 hours frantically trying to cover their asses and now they are hilariously all offering slightly different versions of the tale, thereby breaking all four rules of spin in record time.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Corbyn is a **** full stop. I just hope that Miss May goes to the country, and then he will quit.

He reminds me of an old Black and White film where a Militant worker gets hired for a company in Brighton and goes there to wreck the company who starts a strike.

An when he succeeds, he leaves and gets paid and that's it.

Cobyns reminds me of him

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chris

As an attempt at deflection this is mildly amusing. The legality of the release is a separate issue, worthy of its own discussion. It does not, however, alter any of the facts of last week's incident.

Corbyn lied. His team lied. They have spent the last 48 hours frantically trying to cover their asses and now they are hilariously all offering slightly different versions of the tale, thereby breaking all four rules of spin in record time.

What I find amusing is that people are getting their knickers in a twist over a politician lying, perhaps it's the straw that broke the camels back after all those whoppers we swallowed during the referendum campaign. I thought we liked being lied to anyway, I mean there's a guy sleeping on a giant pile of cash and was complicit in the on going deaths of about a million people based solely on lies and we've done nothing about him and no I'm not trying to deflect anything of anyone just stating facts that we're all so fond of.