Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[popper]

its about time someone mentioned the website content owners

btw it slightly off topic but related and i wanted to make sure its seen but not forgotten, perhaps we need to keep an eye on William!

"Dr William Webb, head of research and development at the UK telecoms regulator, Ofcom, agreed that mobile phone data was still underexploited. "

from this, you have to wonder if they asked for consent, even if it was for research.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7433128.stm

"Mobile phones expose human habits


By Jonathan Fildes
Science and technology reporter, BBC News

The whereabouts of more than 100,000 mobile phone users have been tracked in an attempt to build a comprehensive picture of human movements. ..."

"

The new work tracked 100,000 individuals selected randomly from a sample of more than six million anonymous phone users.

Each time a participant made or received a call or text message, the location of the mobile base station relaying the data was recorded. Information was collected for six months. But, according to the researchers, a person's pattern of movement could be seen in just three."

[NTLVictim]

voted up.

[icsys]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

Just a quick reminder cos the thread is moving at a bit of a pace at the moment:

Digg - http://digg.com/tech_news/BT_commite...acts_in_8_days

Slashdot (vote up please) http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=705657

Alexander Hanff

Can I suggest that links to these relevant documents and news stories are added to the locked 'Links to protest at the possible deployment of Phorm ' thread. It takes ages scanning this thread for the links.
It has grown by six pages since yesterday already!

[JohnnyWashngo]

Originally Posted by popper

its about time someone mentioned the website content owners

btw it slightly off topic but related and i wanted to make sure its seen but not forgotten, perhaps we need to keep an eye on William!

"Dr William Webb, head of research and development at the UK telecoms regulator, Ofcom, agreed that mobile phone data was still underexploited. "

I spotted this myself yesterday and was suitably annoyed. The idea that people were being tracked by their phone usage makes me sick.

That being said, I must confess to be more than a little curious as to exactly what was learned about the habits of the human being from this research. It seems like the human equivalent of tagging a group of fish and tracking their movements through the oceans

Anyway, just to get in clear in my head now, I have to avoid the following:

1) The internet, for fear of being profiled and targetted by Phorm.
2) Mobile phones, for fear of being tracked and used as a lab rat.
3) Credit cards, for fear of being tracked by government agencies ( I have seen this in movies so it must be true )

Modern life is great innit?

[Xpilot]

I assume that not many of the posters here, who are also BT shareholders, will be taking up the BT Visa Credit Card ?
It has a slogan in the offer " Bringing it all together".

Now surely that cannot mean.........That would be illegal.
I must wash my brain in distilled water for thinking such evil thoughts.

[popper]

this is a nice read.
http://p10.hostingprod.com/@spyblog....horm-test.html

[Florence]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Sorry, YES. You own a share of the company, you have no participation in the day to day operation and control of the company, you have delegated that to the board of directors. As an owner if you are not happy with that you can change those people that control the company. This is basic company law.

I am not allowing BT to handle the shares in votes anymore I truly thought she had sold them all when the 02 shares had to be sold years ago.

I have a responsible person going this years AGM with proxy for the votes who will be asking questions. I am here to help not be attacked for owning shares that are not in my name but an 86 yr old women who just happens to be my mother. She thought sadly that the shares would be worth enough to pay for her funeral... Apparently that was the only reason she kept them few years back she could have sold them for over £1,000 today they are worth nearer £600.

There are many shareholders who due to financial reasons or health cannot make it to AGM's. That doesn't mean they are all bad and support Phorm my mother has no idea of what phorm can do she isn't IT literate and has never used a computer. She only had internet at her home 2 yrs ago when her son moved back in to help look after her with me.

---------- Post added at 09:23 ---------- Previous post was at 09:14 ----------

Originally Posted by Xpilot

I assume that not many of the posters here, who are also BT shareholders, will be taking up the BT Visa Credit Card ?
It has a slogan in the offer " Bringing it all together".

Now surely that cannot mean.........That would be illegal.
I must wash my brain in distilled water for thinking such evil thoughts.

No Thanks for now the shares are just being used to try to stop phorm not sure if it wil work but might cause enough publiciuty to warn others about phorm and get people deciding to not opt-in.

BT have bought many shares for the treasury so looks like they trying to be sure if a large number of voting share holders vote against they have nearly as many shares in treasury.

[fidbod]

Just a quick note to say fantastic job Alex - see you at the demo

[jelv]

<Tin hat>

Why won't the authorities investigate the illegal phone taps?

Could it be that they don't want the lid lifted on this area in case their own dirty secrets come to light?

</Tin hat>

[AlexanderHanff]

I have edited the first part of the article temporarily until such time as I am sure I have the truth on the situation. I have given Kent/BT a right of reply to clarify the issue of the charity ads.

Maybe I was a little overzealous but hey both side have been guilty from that now haven't they?

Alexander Hanff

[serial]

Maybe anti-virus companies who are considering not to detect the webwise cookies should rethink. Maybe your perceptions has been manipulated here.

"121Media will take action (both technical and in public relations) to avoid any perception that their system is a virus, malware or spyware and to show that in effect is a positive web-development."

Success Criteria and Summary results:

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Result: Compliant.

[tdadyslexia]

Hi Alex

From PlusNet Community Forum
Posted by: MickKi

Other than petitions to the PM which I doubt he reads or acts on (there's thousands of those out there) is there a concerted joined legal suit that we (or ex-BT) customers can bring against these people? This is in all respects a flagrant violation of so many laws that makes a mockery of the concept of human rights, corresponding acts of parliament and how justice is served in this country, when it comes to corporate entities being the villains: Just think for a minute how a hypothetical 18 year old hacker would have been treated by the authorities, if he violated only half of the laws that BT has trampled over so many times unchallenged.

It makes me angry.

My Bold

[roadrunner69]

Customer Experience Enhancements

1) PageSense proved to be almost entirely transparent to end users. Only 15-20 trialists (0.1% of the trial userbase) identified the presence of the system and had a negative reaction. To ensure 100% transparency, the following work is planned:

• Phase 2 testing will use the latest revision of PageSense (ProxySense), which reduces the likelihood that customers will detect the system….

So rather than address the negative concerns of the users who DID detect the system, their strategy was to ensure that it was better hidden from them in future. This obsession with hiding the system occurs many times throughout the initial part of the report and goes completely against their claim of 'Openness and Transparency'.

Thanks for this 'Anorak in Chief', ammunition very much appreciated by all who are fighting for EVERYONES privacy.

And thanks to the WB at BT too.

[bluecar1]

Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff

I have edited the first part of the article temporarily until such time as I am sure I have the truth on the situation. I have given Kent/BT a right of reply to clarify the issue of the charity ads.

Maybe I was a little overzealous but hey both side have been guilty from that now haven't they?

Alexander Hanff

hang on a mo alex, at least you have admitted you "MAY" have made an honest mistake and given BT and PHORM the right to reply,

can't see them doing the honorable thing and coming clean on anything shortly,

so in my eyes (and probably most others ) you are way ahead in both credability and honesty stakes

,

also just seen this over on BT forums, reference your document re 2006 trials

do i detect a softening of the moderators over there? are they doing their own digging and not liking what they find so are now "mildly" sympathetic to us?

peter

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[serial]

Alex, can you give some details about pages 50-52? What is Section 6 - Download Targets?