thanks spiderplant for the link, quite handy that
and i like that remote
& thanks markc1984 for confirming point 2
however ive just realised you said youve been using it since 2010
i really need someone with a more recent install to reply, because speaking to vm customer support, they have said that if i get the v-hd box i wont have either of these options anymore and its possible i only have them on my older v box and v+ box because the software onboard or the smartcard hasnt been updated, but they reckoned they had a recent machine and these are no longer options :/