31-01-2012, 19:34
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
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Originally Posted by nick2xuk
From what I've read, the upload is only going to be 2Mb which puts a bit of a downer on it all.
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Not sure if other forums can be linked to - feel free to remove if so - the following link compares it against BT Infinity - http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...9&postcount=49
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Upload will be the thing that decides it (at work we give customers the choice between 10Mb and 2Mb upload, every time it's 10Mb), especially in the media-sharing age, but at least this gives a half-decent platform for their VoD service to even hold a candle against Virgin Media and BT.
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01-02-2012, 14:03
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
I'll be getting it when it comes out. With Sky's massive upgrade of their core network I'm confident that they can deliver the speed at prime time.
If Virgin bring the price point of their 10mbit line down I'll keep it as a backup.
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01-02-2012, 14:27
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
Virgin need to start rethinking their prices, and i'd rather have the 2Mb upload from sky with no traffic management than 10Mb with BT and traffic management.
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01-02-2012, 18:47
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
I only hope with the likes of Sky, BT and hopefully others launching fibre broadband this year they'll also pump tv down the wires so that we have a choice of cable tv providers too rather than just one.
Sky's satellite service is great until a storm arrives... I want a choice of "wired" tv providers in the same way that there is a massive choice in ISPS. Plus with Freeview finally going it "alone" in London this year with the analogue signals axed, they'll finally be a decent signal coming through the aerials too.
Choice is good, isn't it?
Sky are and always have been very aggresive, I wonder if they'll take the fight to VM and launch a full blown cable tv (IPTV) service to compete against VM. They can only do that on stable fibre lines.
I don't think Sky's fibre service is so much to do with broadband as it is to do with offering their tv service via a different delivery method.
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01-02-2012, 20:46
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
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Originally Posted by Zee
Virgin need to start rethinking their prices, and i'd rather have the 2Mb upload from sky with no traffic management than 10Mb with BT and traffic management.
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Remember that the BT Vision usage *should* not count against any bandwidth or usage (like anything it has an Acceptable Usage Policy), nor any traffic management.
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01-02-2012, 21:59
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine
Remember that the BT Vision usage *should* not count against any bandwidth or usage (like anything it has an Acceptable Usage Policy), nor any traffic management.
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thats true, but if you've ever tried downloading on BitTorrent during evening periods, its almost impossible.
They must have changed something after new year as before new year was maxing out both upload and download during the same time period.
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01-02-2012, 22:51
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
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Originally Posted by Horizon
Sky are and always have been very aggresive, I wonder if they'll take the fight to VM and launch a full blown cable tv (IPTV) service to compete against VM. They can only do that on stable fibre lines
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sky have already announced they will be bringing out a sky anytime box which will do streaming on movies and sports, hopefully they will see sense and stream their entire channel line-up so that people can get sky without a dish.
Youview is coming out this year which will hopefully have this functionality, i'm not sure if they will have the legal right to stream all tv channels that virgin has, if they do then virgin will be screwed and so will sky as the cost of subscribing to just sky sports possibly without having to pay a base fee like sky's £20/month would be a massive saving.
iptv is the future
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01-02-2012, 23:10
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
I'd rather take 20mb with no traffic management, but given the choice I'd take 20 with management over 2 without.
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03-02-2012, 23:18
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
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Originally Posted by virginruinedntl
sky have already announced they will be bringing out a sky anytime box which will do streaming on movies and sports, hopefully they will see sense and stream their entire channel line-up so that people can get sky without a dish.
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This is what I want. A full tv service down the wires from BT, SKy, Be whoever. Just a choice of cable tv provider other than vm.
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I'd rather take 20mb with no traffic management, .
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Here. Here.
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03-02-2012, 23:49
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
The lower upload speed with Sky doesn't bother me. I want faster downloads, and I want to continue having a truly unlimited service.
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04-02-2012, 01:24
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
Now let me get this right...Sky BB comes through a BT line, so you can only get faster Sky BB if BT have installed fibre optics in your area??
If this is the case, then they shouldn't really be trying to claim that they are increasing the fibre optic network, as it isn't them doing it at all.
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04-02-2012, 11:20
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
You're confusing two different things.
Yes, Sky Broadband Unlimited Fibre uses BT's FTTC, but Sky is quite open about this and makes no claim of "increasing the fibre optic network".
Sky's recent and separate claim about 100 Gbps is about its own core network, not taking credit for Openreach's fibre roll-out.
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04-02-2012, 13:19
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
BT, Sky, TalkTallk and other ISPs providing Superfast Broadband use the BT Openreach Fire Optic Network, apart from Virgin Media, who have their own Fiber Optic Network for some time now!
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04-02-2012, 16:37
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
Sky also have their own fibre network, as they bought out Easynet in 2006.
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04-02-2012, 16:48
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Re: Sky BB fibre product
So has O2/Be.
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