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Old 18-04-2012, 16:30   #91
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED

*groan*

That cheering sound you may have heard is lawyers across the land sensing another payday.

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Radical cleric Abu Qatada's deportation has been thrown into doubt after the European Court of Human Rights said it had received a last-minute appeal.

The appeal by his lawyers was lodged late last night, a day after the Home Office believed the deadline expired.

If the Home Office is wrong, Strasbourg's confirmation of a last-minute appeal is a shattering development. But the Home Office insists that it circled the right date on the calendar.

When the appeal was revealed, a Home Office spokesman denied that it had made a mistake about timing, saying the European Court was "wrong".

A spokesman said that Abu Qatada had "no right to request to refer the case to the Grand Chamber [of the court] because the three-month deadline passed at midnight on Monday".

He said the government was writing to the European Court to make the point that the case should not be referred because the deadline had lapsed.
Just how incompetent are this government (and the last) for being unable or unwilling to remove a clear danger from our shore. Getting the date for an appeal deadline wrong is the kind of rookie mistake I would expect but surely the time has now come to grow a pair, put him on the next plane out of the UK and stand by the shredder waiting for the letter of complaint to come in from Europe so it can be dealt with appropriately.
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Just how incompetent are this government (and the last) for being unable or unwilling to remove a clear danger from our shore. Getting the date for an appeal deadline wrong is the kind of rookie mistake I would expect but surely the time has now come to grow a pair, put him on the next plane out of the UK and stand by the shredder waiting for the letter of complaint to come in from Europe so it can be dealt with appropriately.
If the Government were to push ahead and ignore the European Court they would be breaking the law would they not?
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED

Not any UK laws, from my understanding his deportation has been cleared by every court in the only country it should matter in.

Plus the French and Italians have happily ignored the European courts when it comes to giving potential dangers one way tickets home. I can't see why we should be any different.
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED

Quelle surprise....

Still, it's only taxpayer's money supporting the likes of this religious extremist. We should all be delighted that our asylum and immigration system routinely exposes us to this sort of thing.
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED

according to radio 4 this morning there is something like a backlog of 160,000 cases ,there is a suspicion that the ECHR is eagerly dealing with cases from Britain because we will obey them and more recalcitrant states will just tell them to bog off
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If the Government were to push ahead and ignore the European Court they would be breaking the law would they not?
I don't care, I care about the safety of this country and the people in it who are law abiding.

Ship him to Jordan and then if anyone asks about him just say WHO, WHAT, WHEN and walk away shaking your head.
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED

Just stick him on a plane to Jordan, or tell Europe you take him.
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re: [Updated]Abu Qatada's deportation appeal REJECTED

just a point but as to the safety of this country I don’t see that getting rid of him in any way does that while he is here we know where he is what he is doing etc we can always try him here if we want however once he leaves there is no guarantee that the other country will keep him locked up deals to made etc


see http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co....ail/story.html


I know thats only 2 years but then this idiot most likely will have information real or not on higher level people to do deals with . Seems to me the only way to limit the treat is to keep them where you can see them
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Can Britain delcare a state of emergency which was suspend the ECHR and hence allow the removal of Islamists without breaking the law?
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Can Britain delcare a state of emergency which was suspend the ECHR and hence allow the removal of Islamists without breaking the law?
seriously Alan stop being so extreme
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seriously Alan stop being so extreme
I'm only asking by the way, becuase we are running out of legal options
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I'm only asking by the way, becuase we are running out of legal options
Let me get this right ,you are of the opinion that when legal options have run out we should use marshal law to circumvent the legal process
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Let me get this right ,you are of the opinion that when legal options have run out we should use marshal law to circumvent the legal process
Its certainly more legal that simply dumping him to Jordon in defience of the European Court
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Its certainly more legal that simply dumping him to Jordon in defience of the European Court
Probably not, as one (sending him to Jordan) is a specific one-off, and imposing a State of Emergency would affect over 60 million people.

You really don't think things through, do you? How does your company survive with you as a (allegedly) senior manager when all your comments appear to be barely-literate knee-jerk badly thought out statements?
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Probably not, as one (sending him to Jordan) is a specific one-off, and imposing a State of Emergency would affect over 60 million people.

You really don't think things through, do you? How does your company survive with you as a (allegedly) senior manager when all your comments appear to be barely-literate knee-jerk badly thought out statements?
I have been thinking about it for some time and the same would apply to all suspects who are slowing down removals out of the UK (mainly Terrorists)

In practise it would only be for the short term and would not affect us very much
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