Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I posted the evidence, in my every day living costs.

Its enough for me. If you dont want to believe it then I leave it at that.

Your evidence was

food up by huge amounts this year alone, food I regurly buy has gone up about 30% and even managed to go up during a supposed promotion.

electric/gas up by huge amounts.

Strange - the food we regularly buy hasn't gone up by that sort of figure (and we are shopping for a family of 3-4 (depending on the time of the year), and we shop at Morrisons every week) - our weekly bill has probably gone up from around £85 per week to about £90 per week in the last year.

And as for electricity and gas bills, ours has gone up around 15%, but we now have the rate fixed for two years, so that will even out over the years.

Somehow, our evidence seems to contradict each others (in parts) - perhaps that's why CPI is taken from a basket of around 600 items, so that outliers don't skew the figures....

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I know enough on this forum yes.

to you if someone posts the bbcs or any other media outlet point of view that qualifies as fact.

The difference being that while they do have a reputation for being left wing, the BBC do have a reputation for researching their news stories well. You, with all due respect, can make no such claim. Neither can I. We don't know each other well enough to know how little or much research the other does.

[Chrysalis]

Where is that reputation from stuart.

You seem to have a misguided view on the bbc, several of their stories have little research and are based on a single person's views only.

[beeman]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

under UK law you need one person on the train, in the first place!

Laws can bee changed, especially if such a change can save UKGOV/TFL LOTS of money

[denphone]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16330372

Travellers on London's Underground network face disruption as drivers belonging to the union Aslef stage a 24-hour strike.

The strike is expected to affect shoppers heading for the Boxing Day sales and football fans.

Transport for London has warned of "severe disruption" and urged travellers to check its website before starting their journeys.

Not the type of transport chaos you want on your Boxing Day trip is it.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

This might cause problems, but l am in agreement with the tube strike, They are working a bank holiday and therefore entitled to what ever payment there should be.

This does cause disruption to passengers, but LU are at fault for not talking to them, and don't forget when LU put prices up for travel, does anyone complain.

This is what annoys me, businesses put prices up but my wages have been frozen for two years.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This might cause problems, but l am in agreement with the tube strike, They are working a bank holiday and therefore entitled to what ever payment there should be.

This does cause disruption to passengers, but LU are at fault for not talking to them, and don't forget when LU put prices up for travel, does anyone complain.

This is what annoys me, businesses put prices up but my wages have been frozen for two years.

Total Rubbish and BS..They couldn't get the day off legitimately so they went on strike to get it.

I'm fed up with the gravy train that is public holidays.Because Christmas was on a Sunday many people in the public service get Tuesday off as a holiday as well which means public services are closed that day as well.The rest of the world just has to suck it up and work public holidays.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This might cause problems, but l am in agreement with the tube strike, They are working a bank holiday and therefore entitled to what ever payment there should be.

This does cause disruption to passengers, but LU are at fault for not talking to them, and don't forget when LU put prices up for travel, does anyone complain.

This is what annoys me, businesses put prices up but my wages have been frozen for two years.

They already get substantial extra pay for working bank holidays .Many private sector workers do no even get any extra pay or days of in lue for working bank holidays

[Russ]

Triple pay and a day off in lieu is a total urine-extraction. Replace the strikers with people who would be willing to do the job for a more reasonable rate. No sympathy from me.

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Total Rubbish and BS..They couldn't get the day off legitimately so they went on strike to get it.

I'm fed up with the gravy train that is public holidays.Because Christmas was on a Sunday many people in the public service get Tuesday off as a holiday as well which means public services are closed that day as well.The rest of the world just has to suck it up and work public holidays.

Many but not all i am working or did work on christmas day,boxing day,new years eve,and new years day,as well as yes that Tuesday as well,!and i work in the public services the branch i work in the NHS, the public service has still been open 24/7 ie they have not been closed.

Mind you i do not suppose many teachers work bank holidays ,or council office staff so no sucking up and working for them sorts of public service employees.

However i think the tube drivers have a point not about the money however but about the day off,we are now a 24/7 kind of society wether we like it or not (nobody asked me if i would like a 27/7 culture),i do think wherever possible people should be given the option to work or not,but triple pay is a no,no.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Where is that reputation from stuart.

You seem to have a misguided view on the bbc, several of their stories have little research and are based on a single person's views only.

I don't have a misguided view of the BBC at all. I know they don't always get things right, but you appear to be posting your own point of view as fact.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

This might cause problems, but l am in agreement with the tube strike, They are working a bank holiday and therefore entitled to what ever payment there should be.

They work a bank holiday, they are entitled to extra payment. Not the triple time they are asking for.

This does cause disruption to passengers, but LU are at fault for not talking to them, and don't forget when LU put prices up for travel, does anyone complain.

This is what annoys me, businesses put prices up but my wages have been frozen for two years.

You appear to be siding with the strikers, but if LU agree to this, prices (for the commuters) will go up. You day the commuters don't complain, but they do. The problem most commuters have is that they don't have a choice but to use the tube.

You are complaining that businesses put up their own prices, but your own wages are frozen, yet you are asking millions of commuters to put up with the same situation, because you think the strikers are right to act in their own interests.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by martyh

They already get substantial extra pay for working bank holidays .Many private sector workers do no even get any extra pay or days of in lue for working bank holidays

that doesnt make it ok.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

that doesnt make it ok.

doesn't make what ok ?

[Chrysalis]

doesnt make it ok to not pay extra for working bank holidays just because not every company does that.

I have worked for a company before where overtime not only was not paid extra but was compulsary, I have never seenn so many unhappy workers in one place and there is no doubt productivity was effected by work morale there.

Originally Posted by richard1960

Many but not all i am working or did work on christmas day,boxing day,new years eve,and new years day,as well as yes that Tuesday as well,!and i work in the public services the branch i work in the NHS, the public service has still been open 24/7 ie they have not been closed.

Mind you i do not suppose many teachers work bank holidays ,or council office staff so no sucking up and working for them sorts of public service employees.

However i think the tube drivers have a point not about the money however but about the day off,we are now a 24/7 kind of society wether we like it or not (nobody asked me if i would like a 27/7 culture),i do think wherever possible people should be given the option to work or not,but triple pay is a no,no.

My husband as a public servant is working today as MOD security..A public holiday but he will not get a day extra off in lieu.He worked the last two Christmas as well and got no time off in lieu either.It just happened to be his turn on the roster.It being a leap year next year he will repeat this year's roster again..Perhaps in 1213 we might get the whole of Christmas as a holiday.

And as for teachers well every public holiday is shovelled into the school holidays apart from May Day or Whitsun depending on when Easter falls.