Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
04-02-2011, 15:18
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
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If you were Sky, would you have agreed to let your competitor have all future channels? For ever? for Living TV/Bravo/Challenge and Channel one?
Especially when you've just given them Sky1HD, Sky Movies HD, red button access & Sky VoD.
(Sky Sports HD as a seperate deal from Ofcom pressure)
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No.
Virgin/Sky agreed a carriage deal for their basic channels, for the next 10 years, correct? Virgin should have asked them to agree to a set price (similar to whatever they agreed on for Sky1) for any future basic pay channels - if for no other reason than because Sky could now potentially reduce the budget right down on Sky 1/2/Living, move all their popular/first-run content to a new "Sky Zero" and they wouldn't be compelled to sell it to Virgin at any price - not that I'm saying this will happen, but it could!
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Even if they did we still wouldn't have Sky Atlantic as it's only being offered free at the moment, it goes behind a pay wall in August, making it not a basic channel. ersonally I don't give a hoot about Sky Atlantic. 
Also it's good to hear that VM are looking to use there networks bigest plus over Sky to bring about my utopian dream, the death of linear TV, it's so old hat |
It's going in to Sky's Variety pack isn't it? Which means it could feasibly go in to any of VM's TV packages (M+/L/XL). When VM lost carriage of these channels in 2007 they were called "Sky Basics" - call them what you like!
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04-02-2011, 16:27
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
Must admit the only thing of interest I have seen in the Sky Atlantic lineup is the Tom Selleck series "Blue Bloods". A lot of the other programmes seem to be repeats from other channels.
Sky and Virgin might do better if they combined their spending power rather than having this constant tussle competing to buy programmes, putting the price up in the process.
It would certainly be better for the viewers who, after all, are the ones who pay for the services.
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04-02-2011, 18:20
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
It seems we`re all thinking the same now,Sky Atlantic isn`t the brilliant new channel BSKYB would like us to believe. I think Virgin are right not to pay over the odds for this channel and should consentrate their efforts on bringing us other channels not owned by BSKYB. Clearly BSKYB are worried about the early poor viewing figures and if this continues then I`l bet they come `cap-in-hand` to virgin offering the channel at the rate Virgin have offered.
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04-02-2011, 18:22
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
One thing we can be sure of - we can't be sure of anything....
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04-02-2011, 18:23
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
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One thing we can be sure of - we can't be sure of anything....
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Very deep... I like it! 
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04-02-2011, 19:16
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
Saw an advert for the channel today highlighting what is on offer every night.
Six Feet Under.Seen it .Old
The Sopranos.Already been shown.Old
Battlestar Galactica..Already been seen by most people.Old
Curb Your Enthusiasm..Old series too.
So I've taken a look at the website.
And during the day you get.
Thirties Something..Very old series
X Files.
ER.
The other new series don't seem quite that exciting either so I'm not prepared even contemplate changing providers considering every show that is new WILL be available somewhere and probably repeated ad nauseum for years to come on one of the channels that VM does carry.
I mean look at Buffy. Presently on SYFY and FX and once exclusive to Sky. 
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04-02-2011, 19:42
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
From the other Sky Atlantic thread...
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As mentioned earlier in the thread, the daytime stuff is just padding. They have to show the Channel 1 stuff somewhere, may as well be during the day on Atlantic. The *real* stuff is during the evening/night, i.e. Prime Time. Atlantic's raison d'être is to provide somewhere for Sky to show its newly acquired HBO content & other quality US drama ("Sky Atlantic - the home of HBO" etc.), content which is far better suited for Prime Time (& not just because some of it is unsuitable for the day due to language/sex/violence!).
Starting this week:
Boardwalk Empire: New. Critically acclaimed. 2011 Golden Globes for Best Drama & Best Actor. Screen Actors Guild awards for Best Emsemble & for Oustanding Performance by a Male Actor. Directors Guild Award for Outstanding Directorial Achievement
Entourage: New. Very well received by critics. Large number of nominations for Emmys, Golden Globes, SAGs, DGAs, etc.
Blue Bloods: New. Fairly well received by critics.
Coming later:
Mad Men: New. Critically acclaimed. Won the 2008, 2009, 2010 Golden Globes & Emmys for Best Drama, along with a whole host of other awards.
Big Love: New. Extremely well received by critics. Large number of nominations for Emmys, Golden Globes, etc.
Game of Thrones: New (1st season, not aired anywhere yet so no critical response).
Treme: New. Very well received by critics. Emmy & Grammy nominations.
Six Feet Under, The Sopranos, Generation Kill: Repeats. Critically acclaimed. Whole host of award wins and nominations.
The Wire: Repeat. Critically uber-acclaimed (e.g. regularly claimed to be "The Best TV Series Ever"). Whole host of award nominations & some wins.
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Also: BSG: Repeat. Critically acclaimed. Bucket load of awards.
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OK, so some of the Primetime stuff is old... but it's bloody good stuff which is old! Better than a lot of the new shows on in the evenings on other channels.
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04-02-2011, 20:32
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...tic-tv-ratings
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Entourage: Sky Atlantic, 10.30pm – Day three of Sky's new HBO-packed channel and a ratings squall appears to have blown in, despite a promotional blitz for the launch.
The launch of the seventh series of HBO drama Entourage barely managed to flick the ratings needle with an average of just 18,000 viewers between 10.30pm and 11pm. The second episode fared slightly better, despite the late night slot from 11.05pm to 11.45pm, with 27,000 viewers.
The last series of Entourage aired on ITV2 and averaged about 200,000 viewers per episode. The final episode hit 300,000.
However, Sky Atlantic is available in about 10m homes that subscribe to Sky, while ITV2 is in more than 90% of the 26m UK TV homes.
Sky Atlantic's top-rating show last night was a re-run of the 10-year-old pilot episode of Six Feet Under, with 53,000 viewers.
On launch night on Tuesday, lavish HBO drama Boardwalk Empire attracted 438,000 viewers, while Tom Selleck cop drama Blue Bloods drew 225,000.
Yesterday the BSkyB chief operating officer, Mike Darcey, said that its ratings are much more important to free-to-air broadcasters such as ITV2 that are reliant on audience figures to sell advertising.
Darcey added that it is buzz, or "column inches", about Sky Atlantic that is much more important at the moment as it is about making the overall Sky channels portfolio attractive to subscribers.
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04-02-2011, 20:43
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
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10 million potential viewers and that is all the channel is achieving? It's been advertised to death too!
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04-02-2011, 20:49
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
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10 million potential viewers and that is all the channel is achieving? It's been advertised to death too!
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My goodness after all that build up its shocking to see the viewing figures,the sky man will soon be begging vm to take it just to double the viewers .
Sky Atlantic's Entourage gathers posse of 18,000.  
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04-02-2011, 20:53
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
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10 million potential viewers and that is all the channel is achieving? It's been advertised to death too!
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They are pretty horrendous figures, but then ITV2HD figures were even worse the last time I bothered to look.
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04-02-2011, 21:02
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
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They are pretty horrendous figures, but then ITV2HD figures were even worse the last time I bothered to look.
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Might just be a midweek slump, but I would have thought they's be getting a few more viewers than that?
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04-02-2011, 22:16
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
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Might just be a midweek slump, but I would have thought they's be getting a few more viewers than that?
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Just had a look on BARB they no longer list ITV 2,3,4 HD figures, one can only assume they are awful.
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04-02-2011, 23:03
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
seems another case of all this Sky hype for the channel but apart from one programme (Boardwalk Empire) it's all smoke and mirrors.
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04-02-2011, 23:45
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Re: Guardian: "Sky Atlantic won't be on Virgin Media soon, says BSkyB boss"
Embarrassing Bodies got 3.5 million viewers on channel 4 the other night. SKY must be worried that a programme that often features a doctor sticking his finger into someones rectum is attracting more viewers than their multi million pound dramas from America. Someone at SKY is going to have a sore bottom if this doesn't turn around sharply.
I can't see things getting any better in terms of viewing figures. Usually people talk at work or in the pub when a new show is launched. People always find out when they've missed 'must see TV'. Outside of this forum, I've heard nobody saying anything about the channel or the programmes.
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