Appeasement

[Ms NTL]

Originally Posted by Chris

What a charmer. Someone remind me how much he just had to pay Mukhtar Ali Yassin to make the libel action Lozza himself started, go away …

Please explain, I am not familiar with the guys above.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Just felt the need to check how much beer and popcorn we've got in stock, because I think this is going to be some more addictive reading, and I do enjoy a good conspiracy theory.

I think Tinfoil hats will be needed as this thread progresses.


https://youtu.be/wFNO2sSW-mU?t=35

Originally Posted by Ms NTL

Please explain, I am not familiar with the guys above.

Laurence Fox: small-time actor turned political activist.
Mukhtar Ali Yasim: small-time actor turned political activist.

Got into a fight on Xitter, during which Mukhtar called Fox some not-nice-names. Fox started a libel action. Fox, for reasons, decided to stop the libel action and tried to negotiate an end to it with Mukhtar. Mukhtar declined to let it drop quietly and insisted on it being formally dismissed with Lozza Fox paying him £1,000s in legal costs.

N.B. Fox is going around telling anyone who will listen that he has decided to ‘discontinue’ his libel action but that description is not entirely congruent with reality. He may have wanted to merely discontinue and walk away, but the only way he could make it stop was to agree to Mukhtar’s demand for formal dismissal. Which, in legal terms, is tantamount to Lozza accepting he lost the case. Diddums.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Well it certainly ly sounds like it from a lot of your posts.

Maybe your inference - but I cannot hate people. All I'm doing is to warn you of the looming problem that the critical mass of of an incompatible culture will bring.

EDIT:
... and expressing surprise that the first budget item was a memorial to the Muslim fallen; an obvious piece of patronisation that will not be well received by normal people, imo.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by peanut

I thought the Cenotaph was a / the memorial for all.

The Cenotaph memorialises those killed, hence the inscription ‘THE GLORIOUS DEAD’. The planned memorial is for all who fought. According to the World War Muslim Memorial Trust, onwards of 600,000 Muslims fought in the Indian Army alone. In addition, more than 300,000 North African Muslims fought for the Free French

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Maybe your inference - but I cannot hate people. All I'm doing is to warn you of the looming problem that the critical mass of of an incompatible culture will bring.

EDIT:
... and expressing surprise that the first budget item was a memorial to the Muslim fallen; an obvious piece of patronisation that will not be well received by normal people, imo.

Or you, apparently...

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

What a <alcoholic drink> fuelled car crash of a thread this is

Tend to agree. Kind of weird thing to obsess over when there are far more important ones to worry about.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Maybe your inference - but I cannot hate people. All I'm doing is to warn you of the looming problem that the critical mass of of an incompatible culture will bring.

EDIT:
... and expressing surprise that the first budget item was a memorial to the Muslim fallen; an obvious piece of patronisation that will not be well received by normal people, imo.

Just the religions that they choose to follow

I can see you now lying in bed drunkenly beating your pillow whilst looking longingly at the framed photo of your beloved Tory politician screaming ‘Why? Why have you forsaken me ?’

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Just the religions that they choose to follow

I can see you now lying in bed drunkenly beating your pillow whilst looking longingly at the framed photo of your beloved Tory politician screaming ‘Why? Why have you forsaken me ?’

Rubbish.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Rubbish.

You could have just edited your original post to this response and it would have kept the same meaning.

[1andrew1]

Whilst I don't buy into Seph's conspiracy theory, I do think it was a bit strange to have this as a budget item, especially at the start. I ascribe this to the government drowning, not waving.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Whilst I don't buy into Seph's conspiracy theory, I do think it was a bit strange to have this as a budget item, especially at the start. I ascribe this to the government drowning, not waving.

At least you've met me half way, Andrew.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Whilst I don't buy into Seph's conspiracy theory, I do think it was a bit strange to have this as a budget item, especially at the start. I ascribe this to the government drowning, not waving.

I would agree with you, but I see it as trying to appeal to a segment of voters they’ve alienated*, not "appeasement".

*I know - which segment of voters haven’t they alienated…

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I would agree with you, but I see it as trying to appeal to a segment of voters they’ve alienated*, not "appeasement".

*I know - which segment of voters haven’t they alienated…

Yup. I took it as the Conservative Party trying to disassociate itself from Lee Anderson's Islamophobic comments.

So, I looked up Lee Anderson.

His comments were, apparently ;

I don’t actually believe that the Islamists have got control of our country, but what I do believe is they’ve got control of Khan and they’ve got control of London, and they’ve got control of Starmer as well.

People are just turning up in their thousands, and doing anything they want, and they are laughing at our police. This stems with Khan, he’s actually given our capital city away to his mates.

Please explain to me how these are "Islamophobic"