General : Traffic Management Changes - April 2nd

[JPAC]

Sorry, I meant to ask, when speeds are doubled what will Size:L be called?

XL or ML20?

[BenMcr]

It'll be L (up to 20Mbit) on the bill I believe. But in the table it's ML20 as M and L are being merged into the same tier

[Sirius]

So the virgin website shows me as being on the new super duper doubled speed but its still 100 meg not the 120 meg it should be. They say thats a problem with the website but have not fixed it yet, .

So who wants to bet they still give me the new traffic management even when they have not given me the 120 meg

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Sirius

So the virgin website shows me as being on the new super duper doubled speed but its still 100 meg not the 120 it should be if i was on the new teir

Bet they give me the new traffic management even when they have not given me the 120 meg

120Mbit hasn't launched yet - that's later this year

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by By Mcr

120 Mbit hasn't launched yet - that's later this year

So later this year for the traffic management for existing 100 meg users then is it ??, Because that's my upgrade to super duper speed and they say this traffic management does not hit you till you are upgraded, i hope i don't get the new traffic management now because that means there pulling a fast one YET AGAIN.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Sirius

So later this year for the traffic management, Because that's my upgrade to super duper speed and they say this does not hit you till then, i hope i don't get the new traffic management now because that means there pulling a fast one YET AGAIN.

Traffic Management on 50 and 100Mbit does apply now. Virgin have never sold either as being a guaranteed unmanaged connection

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Traffic Management on 50 and 100Mbit does apply now. Virgin have never sold either as being a guaranteed unmanaged connection

So does the new traffic management affect those that have NOT been upgraded ?

As customers are migrated to their fantastic new speeds during the Speed Doubling program, we’ll be relaxing our traffic management policy by expanding their traffic management trigger thresholds.

So why will i be hit now when my upgrade has not happened yet ??

[jimexbox]

Its there now...

http://help.virginmedia.com/system/s...E=Cable#double

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by Sirius

So does the new traffic managment affect those that have NOT been upgraded ?

Yes

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Yes

Then the rest is " Whats the chuffing point" i think you will get the rest from that

[buckleb]

The elephant in the room here is that these measure, whatever one thinks of them, would not be required if people stopped regarding copyright-theft as a basic human right.

Of course the ISPs, including Virginmedia, are themselves to blame for a lot of this emphasising the raw download speed, which can only really be of interest to those who live to download the internet each night.

These latest restrictions by Virginmedia are actually quite reasonable in my opinion, and won't really handicap anyone engaged in normal internet activity.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by buckleb

The elephant in the room here is that these measure, whatever one thinks of them, would not be required if people stopped regarding copyright-theft as a basic human right.

Just one dam minute these measure affect those who

Stream video
Stream Music
Use Spotify
Download from Origin
Download from Steam
Stream from Iplayer
Stream from Netflixs
Stream from Lovefilms
Stream from ITV player
Upload to my FTP
Backup to Cloud including VM's own backup system that they give to every user who wants it.
Upload to my website
Play online gaming
Be a server for an online game
Voip calls
Stream tv to my Ipad when away from home


The list is longer and i am sure others could add to that

When you have a family who use the above ALL the time STM becomes the biggest pain in the arse of any ISP

Originally Posted by buckleb

These latest restrictions by Virginmedia are actually quite reasonable in my opinion, and won't really handicap anyone engaged in normal internet activity.

So what is this normal activity you talk about

[Jumping]

Originally Posted by buckleb

The elephant in the room here is that these measure, whatever one thinks of them, would not be required if people stopped regarding copyright-theft as a basic human right.

Of course the ISPs, including Virginmedia, are themselves to blame for a lot of this emphasising the raw download speed, which can only really be of interest to those who live to download the internet each night.

These latest restrictions by Virginmedia are actually quite reasonable in my opinion, and won't really handicap anyone engaged in normal internet activity.

Yeah cause there really isnt any legal way to download a lot of data...Patch World of Warcraft or use the download to play, buy some games from Steam, download Windows 8 beta etc there are plenty of legal ways to use a lot of data and its certainly normal internet activity.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Jumping

Yeah cause there really isnt any legal way to download a lot of data...Patch World of Warcraft or use the download to play, buy some games from Steam, download Windows 8 beta etc there are plenty of legal ways to use a lot of data and its certainly normal internet activity.

And don't mention using bit torrent to mirror the Raspberry pie isos like i am

Remember people think Bit Torrent is for illegal use only

[Rexz]

Originally Posted by buckleb

The elephant in the room here is that these measure, whatever one thinks of them, would not be required if people stopped regarding copyright-theft as a basic human right.

Of course the ISPs, including Virginmedia, are themselves to blame for a lot of this emphasising the raw download speed, which can only really be of interest to those who live to download the internet each night.

These latest restrictions by Virginmedia are actually quite reasonable in my opinion, and won't really handicap anyone engaged in normal internet activity.

Normal internet activity? So now it is classed as abnormal use if we dare use the speed we are given? I just don't get why we keep coming back to this same argument. It has absolutely nothing to do with illegal downloading or abnormal internet use. The restrictions are there simply because the network can't cope with the high amount of traffic at these times. Yes I know its not a dedicated line and these traffic restrictions are here to help us also, but in seeing our speed doubled, we now have a new set of restrictions in place simply because they are cramming more people onto their network which can't cope. We should really look at our internet connections as the traffic managed speeds and then look at our full speed as a kind of boost "out of hours". It will be interesting to see how this plays out with BT and the competition out there.