The Pirate Bay is blocked
07-05-2012, 12:54
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by carlwaring
Wrong, again.
VM have no control over the content of any newsgroup which they do not run.
Unless you're telling me they can explicitly stop people from posting to, say, an MP3 newsgroup; which of course they can't.
They can censor or not carry that newsgroup but that's not the same thing. If there was a court order to block binary newsgroups they would have to comply with that too.
Yes. That's true. They could block access to them but they don't because that would be censorship and they would, quite rightly IMO, attract a lot of "bad press" for it.
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You know anyone would think you own VM the way you defend it like this. You Sir are on my Ignore list for the simple reason your posts are the most biased posts on this forum and DO NOT make for reasoned reading. Plus i hope people understand you do NOT work or speak for VM thankfully.
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks
Plus people persist in quoting the person you are ignoring
At least the facility exists and is easy to control though - over on TBB you have to email Seb to ignore somebody who you find irritating.
It was always on the cards that this thread would degenerate into arguments as the subject is contentious. As soon as one particular individual joined (who is not yet on my ignore list but may soon qualify) degeneration was a certainty as every thread he joins goes that way. An expert troll imo.
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07-05-2012, 13:32
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#197
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by Sirius
You know anyone would think you own VM the way you defend it like this.
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Erm... no they wouldn't. They'd just think it's my opinion and I have a right to express it.
In this case I am happy to "defend" VM from idiots who can't seem to get it through their heads that VM has been LEGALLY ORDERED to block a site but have not blocked the same illegal content on Usenet servers that they don't even own because that would be voluntary censorship and would be wrong.
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You Sir are on my Ignore list..
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Thank goodness for that. I won't have to put up with your abusing the rep system just because you don't like me. Now if I could only stop your friends from doing the same.
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for the simple reason your posts are the most biased posts on this forum and DO NOT make for reasoned reading.
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That may be your opinion but it is not the truth. I am also happy to voice my opinions against VM in threads on such subjects. There are such threads on here if you look.
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Plus i hope people understand you do NOT work or speak for VM thankfully.
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When have I ever said anything different?
And you talk about me posting nonsense? How ironic
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks
An expert troll imo.
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You cannot mean me as having "a difference of opinion" is not in any definition of that word that I have seen.
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07-05-2012, 13:48
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The Invisible Woman
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
Ok last warning.Be civil to each and if you can't ignore those you have issues with then I suggest you leave the thread altogether.
Remember everyone is entitled to air their views whether you disagree with them or not provided they obey the site's T&Cs so I suggest some of you just move on if you cannot accept that.Infractions are likely to be the next step if you fail to grasp these facts.
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07-05-2012, 14:20
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by Dush
Can anyone on a 100mbit recommend a nice fast VPN?
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You dont need a fast VPN. Torrents still work on VM, you just can't get to one source of them without working your way around the block.
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07-05-2012, 14:22
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cf.mega poster
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
And I'd say proxy > VPN.
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07-05-2012, 15:03
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
hmm..... it's blocked on firefox and ie but it is not blocked on opera turbo...
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07-05-2012, 15:18
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
Oh yeah I know that you can use a proxy but I'm interested in a VPN after all this talk of the internet being censored and people being sued etc. It's easier than a seedbox and probably more useful.
Opera turbo uses a third party server to compress data so that's why it works on there. Quite a nice idea for a good free, fast proxy!
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07-05-2012, 15:27
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
as i can still access tpb via my bt connection at work (mon 7th) . it begs the question, why were virgin so quick with implementing the block. where's the fire mr branson.
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07-05-2012, 15:50
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by basicfags
why were virgin so quick with implementing the block. where's the fire mr branson.
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It's called a court order. Why are BT being so slow? Also, Mr Branson has nothing to with it.
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07-05-2012, 16:17
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
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Originally Posted by basicfags
as i can still access tpb via my bt connection at work (mon 7th) . it begs the question, why were virgin so quick with implementing the block. where's the fire mr branson.
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VM's network cannot handle the traffic they've probably seen this as a bit of relief and couldn't wait to employ it
As for people asking about VPN's These are ones I've used and have had very little problem with.
StrongVPN, US company, keeps logs but is an excellent service I used them for a few months and had no problem watching Hulu and NetFlix. The US NetFlix service is head and shoulders above the UK version, shame my credit card details wouldn't work after the free month.
Anonine, Swedish company I've got a three month OpenVPN subscription with these at the moment. I also tried the PPTP subscription for my iPad, unfortunately I messed up when ordering the PPTP service and basically they haven't answered my emails! According to the website they don't keep logs.
VPNTunnel.se again a Swedish company and I have had an a OpenVPN account with them for about 6 months. They also don't answer emails! and according to the website they don't keep logs.
You could also order a VPS from any of the UK suppliers and install a proxy and or OpenVPN, I'm not that familiar with Linux and managed to do it in and hour or so, there's plenty of help on the web. This may only be a short term solution as I don't know if UK VPS service providers will have to start blocking sites like the ISP's.
I have also tried a few free providers my advice on those would be not to bother.
I would also suggest using FireFox as your main browser with HTTPS Everywhere and Ghostery installed.
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07-05-2012, 16:31
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
Seems an awful amount of effort for what ?
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07-05-2012, 16:33
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
Not having to pay for something....
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07-05-2012, 16:34
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
Ah so you pay for a VPN not to pay for something else = genius
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07-05-2012, 16:37
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
Not me - others, perhaps...
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07-05-2012, 16:46
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Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
No I didn't mean you, I was just posing the question.
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