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Old 29-02-2012, 20:32   #76
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Old 29-02-2012, 21:26   #78
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It would be a lot bloody warmer
I was in Athens last April (at a conference) and it was snowing....
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Makes you glad we've got what we've got .Anybody whining about work schemes ,NHS and welfare reforms designed to save money and make the various depts more efficient need to have a look at that and start thinking themselves lucky because it won't take much to tip the scales so we end up on that track
Why should we save money when hundreds of billions worth of tax are being evaded each year from the UK government, the NHS reforms will cost money and we have a failed economic and social systems. It is about time we ended the era of the rich "never having it so good"!!!

We need to create real decent jobs, not work work schemes and welfare reforms!!!

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Did you read that off the back of a box of rice krispies
No, I did not, you (and your friends) should be consigned to the history book becasue you defend a social and economic system that is not working and is outdated!!!

In other words:

THE WORLD IS NOT WORKING!!!
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Re: Pay frozen for third year running

Alan I don't think that being fixated on Tax issues will solve the worlds issues.

All that's happening is that you are sounding like a broken record.

I'm in no doubt that part of solving the country's problems would be helped by this but then there are other things that can be done too.
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Alan I don't think that being fixated on Tax issues will solve the worlds issues.

All that's happening is that you are sounding like a broken record.

I'm in no doubt that part of solving the country's problems would be helped by this but then there are other things that can be done too.
It is not just tax issues, it is union rights, law and order, wages, benifits, LGBT rights and labour standards, along with a radical change in the way businesses is run!
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What do you suggest replacing it with?
A form of Capitlism and Democracy that works in favour for us, not the rich, and that is just the start!
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A form of Capitlism and Democracy that works in favour for us, not the rich, and that is just the start!
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It is not just tax issues, it is union rights, law and order, wages, benifits, LGBT rights and labour standards, along with a radical change in the way businesses is run!
In the meantime, our costs go up, we are undercut by China, Vietnam, Thailand and any number of other countries that can provide cheap labour, and the country ultimately goes the same way as Greece.
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In the meantime, our costs go up, we are undercut by China, Vietnam, Thailand and any number of other countries that can provide cheap labour, and the country ultimately goes the same way as Greece.
You're forgetting, Alan's great plan involves forcing (by "SANCTIONS!!!") the likes of China et al to pay the same wages as Western countries.
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In the meantime, our costs go up, we are undercut by China, Vietnam, Thailand and any number of other countries that can provide cheap labour, and the country ultimately goes the same way as Greece.
Yes, but there will be a global government to global labour, wage, and benefit standards!
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Yes, but there will be a global government to global labour, wage, and benefit standards!
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Yes, but there will be a global government to global labour, wage, and benefit standards!
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Got any better ideas?
How do you propose to establish this "global government" with standardised wages and benefits?.Do you wish to remove countries own sovereignty and if so how? without having all out war on a global scale
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