Operation Yewtree

[greeninferno]

Originally Posted by Kabaal

I hope that this is just someone trying to get money out of McCartney or some twisted type of fame. It's disheartening seeing so many icons of our recent history turning out to be evil paedos.

TBH honest most of them are absolute cretins.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by madmax215

Since when has it been within the law for the police to gain entry to a probety without the owners consent, as far as I know they have to give the owner a search warrent or arrest him to search the house.

If the house is empty and a warrant is obtained they won't wait until the occupier comes back home. The warrant empowers the Police to force entry.

Originally Posted by nomadking

I do get a sense that these house searches are just a fishing expedition. If an allegation has been made that photos were taken and might still be there, that is one thing, but to search on the off chance there is evidence of other wrongdoing is quite another.

There needs to be some evidence of criminality before a warrant is granted, there isn't just a stack of them sitting about waiting for a celebrity to move to the area so they can punt his door in.

Originally Posted by Top banana

Don't know what's going on nowadays with our police. Why would they release this statement without him being arrested or charged.

To stop rumours for a start. The press etc would know fine well a search was ongoing thanks to neighbours and twitter. A Police press release gets the facts straight before the Internet gossip squads can start.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Derek

If the house is empty and a warrant is obtained they won't wait until the occupier comes back home. The warrant empowers the Police to force entry. There needs to be some evidence of criminality before a warrant is granted, there isn't just a stack of them sitting about waiting for a celebrity to move to the area so they can punt his door in. To stop rumours for a start. The press etc would know fine well a search was ongoing thanks to neighbours and twitter. A Police press release gets the facts straight before the Internet gossip squads can start.

I can understand searching premises where there is an allegation of theft or something involving a physical object eg drugs, but what physical evidence after all this time could there be about this specific allegation? They seem to just look on the off chance there is evidence of unconnected offences.

[spreadsheet]

what bugs me - and I wrote a letter to the home secretary to which I got no reply

even if people are as guilty as hell - there should be no trial by media

it's not right

[TheDaddy]

Just goes to show, you never know what dangers lurk in the shadows

Boodum tish

[Derek]

Originally Posted by nomadking

I can understand searching premises where there is an allegation of theft or something involving a physical object eg drugs, but what physical evidence after all this time could there be about this specific allegation? They seem to just look on the off chance there is evidence of unconnected offences.

Well off the top of my head thee could be photographs, diaries etc. all of which could give corroboration to the allegations.

[alanbjames]

Since Cliff Richard has homes abroad and spends a lot of his time there, surely if these allegations are true and photos do exist he would have had the sense not to leave them in his UK residence?

[MalteseFalcon]

Yes, I thought that. Wonder if his properties abroad will also be searched?

[Derek]

Originally Posted by alanbjames

Since Cliff Richard has homes abroad and spends a lot of his time there, surely if these allegations are true and photos do exist he would have had the sense not to leave them in his UK residence?

Probably. Mind you if people thought things through Gary Glitter wouldn't have taken a hard drive chock full of child pornography into PC World for them to fix.

[Gary L]

Can you believe Cliff Richard is going to prison?

[madmax215]

He has not been arrested, they are just looking for clues. but it would kill christmas if he is charged, everybody sings his x-mas hits.

[MalteseFalcon]

Police saying more have come forward since yesterday.

[heero_yuy]

Well I know from industry insiders that there were a lot of rumours circulating in the eighties. There's no smoke without fire as they say.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Well I know from industry insiders that there were a lot of rumours circulating in the eighties. There's no smoke without fire as they say.

There is also no guilt without a charge and a trial.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Two points to make.

Police can enter properties, if owners are not there - l believe its called a section 18. But needs a senior officers / mags order.

This news is again somthing brought by someone who cannot be named. I cannot beleive it. In fact l would go as far to say - its ********.