16-03-2024, 00:55
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Former vice president Mike Pence said Friday that he will not endorse Donald Trump, the president with whom he served, just days after Trump won enough delegates to secure the Republican Party’s 2024 nomination.
Pence served under Trump but has been critical of the former president after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol in which Pence was targeted by a mob of pro-Trump supporters who wanted to stop certification of Joe Biden’s electoral victory. Withholding his endorsement in a remarkable break with tradition, Pence rebuked his former boss in strong terms Friday, saying Trump’s agenda doesn’t align with his view of conservatism.
“Donald Trump is pursuing and articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years, and that is why I cannot in good conscience endorse Donald Trump in this campaign,” Pence told Fox News host Martha MacCallum.
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16-03-2024, 08:41
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
If Trump does win ( because the Democrats insist on a geriatric), it will implode very quickly for him and the Republicans. Mainly because he isn't a Republican, he's a Trumpist. In it for himself, his own legal protection, and general madness.
Let's hope it doesn't result in the world imploding too, which is a real risk. Let him **** up his own country by all means.
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16-03-2024, 10:04
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
I’d be weary of conflating what you’d like to see happen and what you think will happen.
If Trump is elected there will be many Republicans down the ticket riding his coat tails all the way to Capitol Hill. They’re not an entirely altruistic species.
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16-03-2024, 15:58
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I’m sure he’s devastated!
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16-03-2024, 17:07
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I’m sure he’s devastated!
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Devastated the mob didn't hang Pence as planned?
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16-03-2024, 17:24
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I’m sure he’s devastated!
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Actually as a narcissistic sociopath this will irritate Trump a fair bit. And Pence is a genuinely conservative politician, there are those who will take seriously what he says.
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16-03-2024, 17:44
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I’m sure he’s devastated!
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Toys will be thrown out of the pram!
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16-03-2024, 18:00
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Toys will be thrown out of the pram!
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More likely to be ketchup on the walls…
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16-03-2024, 22:46
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Actually as a narcissistic sociopath this will irritate Trump a fair bit. And Pence is a genuinely conservative politician, there are those who will take seriously what he says.
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He did away with Pence as an ally, friend or supporter after the last election. After Pence refused to void the election result.
What makes you think he wanted, or expected, Pence to be team Trump?
Trump doesn’t need a Pence endorsement, nor expected one. Also a Pence endorsement carries about as much weight as a termites shopping bag.
Someone said it this week and I forget where I heard it. I’m paraphrasing:
Biden is a weak proxy put forward by the party to communicate their plans, whereas Trump is the party.
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16-03-2024, 23:46
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Originally Posted by Pierre
Biden is a weak proxy put forward by the party to communicate their plans, whereas Trump is the party.
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This is, for the “genuinely conservative politicians”, the biggest concern.
Trump has successfully captured the party to the extent it’s not even a debate. He’s not the outlier. “Anyone but Trump” is.
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16-03-2024, 23:48
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Originally Posted by Pierre
He did away with Pence as an ally, friend or supporter after the last election. After Pence refused to void the election result.
What makes you think he wanted, or expected, Pence to be team Trump?
Trump doesn’t need a Pence endorsement, nor expected one. Also a Pence endorsement carries about as much weight as a termites shopping bag.
Someone said it this week and I forget where I heard it. I’m paraphrasing:
Biden is a weak proxy put forward by the party to communicate their plans, whereas Trump is the party.
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You’re missing the point.
Your comment earlier (I’m sure he’s devastated) is not a million miles from the truth.
Trump is a narcissistic sociopath. Whether he needs Pence’s endorsement is by the by. The fact is he feels entitled to it and will be aggrieved not to receive it.
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17-03-2024, 00:38
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Originally Posted by Pierre
He did away with Pence as an ally, friend or supporter after the last election. After Pence refused to void the election result.
What makes you think he wanted, or expected, Pence to be team Trump?
Trump doesn’t need a Pence endorsement, nor expected one. Also a Pence endorsement carries about as much weight as a termites shopping bag.
Someone said it this week and I forget where I heard it. I’m paraphrasing:
Biden is a weak proxy put forward by the party to communicate their plans, whereas Trump is the party.
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And what happens to the party after the 77 year old morbidly obese junk food eating heart attack waiting to happen is not with us any more?
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17-03-2024, 00:54
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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And what happens to the party after the 77 year old morbidly obese junk food eating heart attack waiting to happen is not with us any more?
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A battle between Republicans to position themselves as the heir to Trump. Ivanka? Don Jr? DeSantis?
Traditional conservatism is deader on that side of the pond than it is on ours. And that’s saying something.
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17-03-2024, 01:05
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
When a political party becomes the personification of an individual, it’s no longer a political party, it’s a cult…
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17-03-2024, 01:08
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
If we take a step back how many vying to lead the Conservative Party have tried to portray themselves as following in the footsteps of Thatcher?
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