TiVo TiVo Picture Quality - Page 9

borrissey · 28-04-2011, 21:46

Yeah I don't think the SD is as good as the SA box I had before it but that box was slow and pretty crap.

The HD is top notch I don't watch much SD this days and hope as the months and years go on I will watch very little to none....

TMLeafs · 28-04-2011, 22:18

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Originally Posted by OLDGOLD

You must have had a really really good V+ box or a low HD expectation level if you thought Sky Sport News on V+ looked HD!

Well my mates that have sky could only tell it wasn't HD due to the top right hand corner telling them its not. Last night as soon as it was put on we all noticed the blur in the side bar.

OLDGOLD · 28-04-2011, 22:25

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Originally Posted by spiderplant

If it really is unreadable, you've got a faulty box, cable or TV.

I've captured the attached image from the SD composite video in the SCART socket (the worst possible image quality), and it's still readable.

Thanks for that Spiderplant. I've got TiVo due to be installed Saturday and that's very encouraging given that it is a composite video signal. Only wish you hadn't made the capture when the Premier League table was displayed (my user name should give you a clue as to who I support)

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Originally Posted by TMLeafs

Well my mates that have sky could only tell it wasn't HD due to the top right hand corner telling them its not. Last night as soon as it was put on we all noticed the blur in the side bar.

Well, like I say, you must have had a magnificent V+ box. I had SkyHD up until January and there was no way that I could mistake SD SSN on V+ for the HD version on Sky.

muppetman11 · 28-04-2011, 22:31

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Originally Posted by OLDGOLD

Thanks for that Spiderplant. I've got TiVo due to be installed Saturday and that's very encouraging given that it is a composite video signal. Only wish you hadn't made the capture when the Premier League table was displayed (my user name should give you a clue as to who I support)

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Well, like I say, you must have had a magnificent V+ box. I had SkyHD up until January and there was no way that I could mistake SD SSN on V+ for the HD version on Sky.

SSN HD blows SSN out the water , no comparison at all.

WDLaserjetGLOVER · 28-04-2011, 23:03

Hello all,
Just had my Tivo installed today.
Concerned about all this talk about picture quality.
My first impression is, hard to tell.
The quality of broadcasts, on HD and SD, is so variable, it is hard to make a judgement.
So far, so good on my 50" Panasonic.
Have BBC HD on at the moment, looks good to me.

whoareyou · 28-04-2011, 23:03

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

SSN HD blows SSN out the water , no comparison at all.

Yep, Soccer Sat was on SS1HD over Easter and it looked amazing.

muppetman11 · 28-04-2011, 23:12

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Originally Posted by whoareyou

Yep, Soccer Sat was on SS1HD over Easter and it looked amazing.

Yep it is very good quality , dont get me wrong V+ does a good job of upscaling SSN however the HD channel is still significantly better in quality.

TMLeafs · 29-04-2011, 00:05

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Yep it is very good quality , dont get me wrong V+ does a good job of upscaling SSN however the HD channel is still significantly better in quality.

Set the tivo box to 576i and set the onkyo av receiver to upscale it to 1080p looks amazing so much less noise around the text and graphics on SSN for example. So just need tivo to fix the output settings so it only sends native resolutions and my onkyo can do the upscaling and I will be happy again.

Lets hope this happens

nialli · 29-04-2011, 08:32

I would suggest that Sky's SD output is not the best to assess - there's long been a suspicion that Sky deliberately compromises the SD versions of its channels to increase the quality distinction of the HD variants. Sky Sports News on SD on the V+ isn't great either.
Try flipping between Film4 and Film4 HD on the TiVo; the SD / HD discrepancy is notably less than flipping between Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports 1 HD.

DaMac · 29-04-2011, 08:43

To be fair though, are you really sure on the quality of film 4 hd? not all the films on there are broadcast from proper HD transfers, some of them do look like they are upscaled (very well in some cases) but not in others.

muppetman11 · 29-04-2011, 08:49

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Originally Posted by nialli

I would suggest that Sky's SD output is not the best to assess - there's long been a suspicion that Sky deliberately compromises the SD versions of its channels to increase the quality distinction of the HD variants. Sky Sports News on SD on the V+ isn't great either.
Try flipping between Film4 and Film4 HD on the TiVo; the SD / HD discrepancy is notably less than flipping between Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports 1 HD.

Sky Sports News always looked fine on my V+ , not as sharp as Sky Sports News HD on my Sky box but pretty good.

Doz007 · 29-04-2011, 09:16

I watched Avatar last night on Sky movies HD and that looked absolutely mind blowing!! By far the best thing I've seen on this TV. Even the mrs' was in awe!

As luck would have it, TiVo also recorded it for me earlier in the week so that will be my new Demo material.

johnasimmons · 29-04-2011, 09:21

I had TiVo installed yesterday (swapped for a V+) and I think both SD & HD pictures are stunning! (I have a 32" Sharp Aquos). The sound is a lot better too, one of the weaknesses of the SA V+ box as well

nialli · 29-04-2011, 11:43

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Originally Posted by DaMac

To be fair though, are you really sure on the quality of film 4 hd? not all the films on there are broadcast from proper HD transfers, some of them do look like they are upscaled (very well in some cases) but not in others.

I did my testing with Hero the other evening which was listed as being HD, a film visually breathtaking. Looked very good on Film4 and even better on Film4HD, but the difference wasn't massive.
I then did a similar check with the football on SkySports2 and SkySports2 HD - even though I didn't think the latter's PQ was that stunning, the difference between the two was more marked than my Film4 comparison.
All subjective though, of course. I tried both 720p and 1080i settings from the Tivo: I think the latter is marginally better for HD on my set but the former gives a slightly better SD picture.
On another note, I think Rubicon on BBC4 looked sharper this week on my Freeview recording than it did on my TiVo's

WDLaserjetGLOVER · 29-04-2011, 13:10

I am watching The Royal Wedding on BBC1 HD.
The picture, like the event, is absolutely stunning on my Tivo/ Panasonic 50" plasma.