25-04-2017, 14:36
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Re: June 8th General Election
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i think it's assumed that if you have no idea or clue you would vote liberal with the rest of them
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Assuming is a very dangerous game papa as things can be totally the opposite of what one assumes or thinks.
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25-04-2017, 15:08
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Theresa May declared she is now chasing “every vote” in Britain as she stuns Labour by targeting its South Wales heartland.
The PM mounts a major election land grab by becoming the first Tory leader in decades to campaign in the Valleys.
Theresa May is targeting votes in South Wales Labour heartland
The region has been a Labour bastion for 100 years, and returned to Westminster no less than five of its former party leaders.
The Tory leader’s audacious bid was given a big boost when a shock poll revealed the Conservatives now have a 10 point lead over Labour in the principality.
Mrs May’s party haven’t won the most votes in a general election in Wales since 1859.
Tory bosses believe that support for Brexit in the region will transfer to election votes
Wales voted for Brexit by 52.5% to 47.5%, leaving many of Remain-backing Labour’s usual supporters alienated from the party, Tory campaign bosses believe.
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Talk about parking your tanks on Labour's lawn.
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25-04-2017, 15:13
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Assuming is a very dangerous game papa as things can be totally the opposite of what one assumes or thinks.
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now you strike me as a labour voter not a lib
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25-04-2017, 15:36
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Re: June 8th General Election
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now you strike me as a labour voter not a lib
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Given the plethora of poor party leaders in this country one will make a decision once they send me my postal vote slip as l am not enamoured by any of them personally as they all obfuscate , deceive and pay insincere lip service IMO.
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25-04-2017, 16:28
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Given the plethora of poor party leaders in this country one will make a decision once they send me my postal vote slip as l am not enamoured by any of them personally as they all obfuscate , deceive and pay insincere lip service IMO.
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That's been the case for years although it does appear to be getting worse!
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25-04-2017, 16:45
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Re: June 8th General Election
well in my view Teresa May has taken us into brexit and we must stand with her until it's over ,this is not a time for backstabbing or attempting the reversing the referendum result ,it's no time for grubby little weasels trying to overturn democracy ,we need to get the job done not try stalling it at every opportunity .
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25-04-2017, 16:53
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Re: June 8th General Election
Here in Scotlandshire, the Borders MSP John Lamont has resigned in order to stand for the equivalent seat in the Westminster election. This seat is one of the most marginal seats in Scotland (Nat majority in 2015 about 350) and the Tories should pick this one up at the very least.
Lamont's decision to resign now, and not after the election, can only be an expression of his confidence at winning. As the local man I guess he should know.
It also means there will be a Holyrood by election some time this summer, in a seat the Tories can expect to hold. A standalone Tory win at Holyrood will bring yet more bad headlines for Nippy and the Nats. Which I'm quite sure didn't enter into the Tories' calculations at all.
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25-04-2017, 16:54
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Re: June 8th General Election
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well in my view Teresa May has taken us into brexit and we must stand with her until it's over ,this is not a time for backstabbing or attempting the reversing the referendum result ,it's no time for grubby little weasels trying to overturn democracy ,we need to get the job done not try stalling it at every opportunity .
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l accepted the result a long time ago as it is what it is and there is no changing it and as far as l am concerned there are far more important things in life then Brexit as far as l am concerned.
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25-04-2017, 17:10
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Re: June 8th General Election
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l accepted the result a long time ago as it is what it is and there is no changing it and as far as l am concerned there are far more important things in life then Brexit as far as l am concerned.
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If only other remainers could do the same.
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25-04-2017, 17:22
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Re: June 8th General Election
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well in my view Teresa May has taken us into brexit and we must stand with her until it's over ,this is not a time for backstabbing or attempting the reversing the referendum result ,it's no time for grubby little weasels trying to overturn democracy ,we need to get the job done not try stalling it at every opportunity .
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I personally wouldn't use the term 'grubby little weasels' , but spot on though!
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25-04-2017, 21:40
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Re: June 8th General Election
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well in my view Teresa May has taken us into brexit and we must stand with her until it's over ,this is not a time for backstabbing or attempting the reversing the referendum result ,it's no time for grubby little weasels trying to overturn democracy ,we need to get the job done not try stalling it at every opportunity .
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Err she campaigned for Remain then saw an opportunity for power. Don't delude yourself Smurf !
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25-04-2017, 22:05
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Here in Scotlandshire, the Borders MSP John Lamont has resigned in order to stand for the equivalent seat in the Westminster election. This seat is one of the most marginal seats in Scotland (Nat majority in 2015 about 350) and the Tories should pick this one up at the very least.
Lamont's decision to resign now, and not after the election, can only be an expression of his confidence at winning. As the local man I guess he should know.
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I would be very surprised if the Tories have not been polling specific constituencies for months now. Politicos have noted that Lynton Crosby has been spotted around Whitehall for weeks. I suspect they know far more than us what is happening on the ground. In 2015 they knew how effective the Lab-SNP coalition threat would be to the Liberal Democrats.
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25-04-2017, 22:09
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Err she campaigned for Remain then saw an opportunity for power. Don't delude yourself Smurf !
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Indeed, she was one of Europe's biggest champions according to farage earlier, plus when she was home secretary she did nothing about immigration from non eu countries in spite of the publics growing concerns, just another self serving, opportunistic, ego maniac desperately trying to stay on the greasy pole, we really do get the politicians we deserve
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25-04-2017, 22:20
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Indeed, she was one of Europe's biggest champions according to farage earlier, plus when she was home secretary she did nothing about immigration from non eu countries in spite of the publics growing concerns, just another self serving, opportunistic, ego maniac desperately trying to stay on the greasy pole, we really do get the politicians we deserve
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Well Farage would say that. It's all about his media attention and image now. I don't think anyone can accuse May of being soft on Brexit albeit she did seem to be stalling for time when taking the Miller case to court when it was clear she would easily win a vote.
Also I thought she did cut down on immigrants from outside the EU. The government reduced student visas and made it harder to people to bring in their wives/husbands. She was constrained by the EU numbers.
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25-04-2017, 22:30
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Err she campaigned for Remain then saw an opportunity for power. Don't delude yourself Smurf !
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I wouldn't put it past her to resign if she doesn't end up with a big enough majority.
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