Bring Back Fox Hunting

This thread is in danger of becoming a chat thread..Let's discuss the topic.

[Sephiroth]

Let’s turn this on its head.

Say the beagles are turned loose into the wild. They breed, grow in population, etc. They are social animals and become the natural predator of the Fox.

What are we gonna do? Hunt beagles? Cull beagles?

So really this boils pretty much down to a class thing where some people deprecate the enjoyment by others of the hunt.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Let’s turn this on its head.

Say the beagles are turned loose into the wild. They breed, grow in population, etc. They are social animals and become the natural predator of the Fox.

What are we gonna do? Hunt beagles? Cull beagles?

So really this boils pretty much down to a class thing where some people deprecate the enjoyment by others of the hunt.

More importantly why aren't there any fox poo bins in the park.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

More importantly why aren't there any fox poo bins in the park.

More importantly, a thousand other things, eg. the record use of food banks. .... Whether pro or anti hunting the fact that these politicians see it as a major policy issue is ludicrous. It matters to 0.01% of the population who have nothing else to worry about apart from their own 'entertainment'.

Originally Posted by Mr K

More importantly, a thousand other things, eg. the record use of food banks. .... Whether pro or anti hunting the fact that these politicians see it as a major policy issue is ludicrous. It matters to 0.01% of the population who have nothing else to worry about apart from their own 'entertainment'.

Makes the inordinate amount of time given over to enacting the ban in the first place all the more puzzling, eh?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chris

Makes the inordinate amount of time given over to enacting the ban in the first place all the more puzzling, eh?

Tony bliar and his government spent 700 hours debating fox hunting in parliament apparently, they spent seven hours debating the invasion of Iraq, it's criminal and I'll be kind of annoyed if one more minute of parliamentary time is spent on fox hunting

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Let’s turn this on its head.

Say the beagles are turned loose into the wild. They breed, grow in population, etc. They are social animals and become the natural predator of the Fox.

What are we gonna do? Hunt beagles? Cull beagles?

So really this boils pretty much down to a class thing where some people deprecate the enjoyment by others of the hunt.

Crazy thing is many many more foxes are being killed now, iirc one hunt killed more on the first day of hunting post ban than they did the whole previous year combined, some might say it's less cruel now but fox hunting shouldn't have been that cruel, 20 minutes was the average hunt length and one dog doing the kill instantly, not saying they were all like that just that they should've been, now we have so many foxes being killed scentless vixens are having to leave lairs because the male hasn't returned and being shot to leaving the cubs to starve and to cap it all most hunts pre ban never even caught anything, seemed to me a lot of people formed an opinion without acquainting themselves with facts and the subsiquent knee jerk legislation reflects that

[Mobes]

Typical nonsense of the pro hunters who try and have it both ways

'Best and least cruel form of pest control' in one breath

'We don't normally catch anything anyway' in another.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mobes

Typical nonsense of the pro hunters who try and have it both ways

'Best and least cruel form of pest control' in one breath

'We don't normally catch anything anyway' in another.

Yeah, if only I was pro hunting

[Pierre]

Although is was a class war decision and sod all to do with the welfare of the Fox, it’s done now and has been for some time. Best to leave it.

[Sephiroth]

But I like winding up the anti-hunting lobby.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

But I like winding up the anti-hunting lobby.

Each to their own but the reality is that as society develops & progresses, previous lines in the sand are moved as the consensus from the population changes. This is inevitable.

Most people believe that fox hunting is such an activity over said line and so the pro-hunting advocates just have to deal with that I am afraid. Any reintroduction would be very undemocratic and as such would be, obviously, opposed by the Leave supporting folks where democracy is at the core of their argument.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Each to their own but the reality is that as society develops & progresses, previous lines in the sand are moved as the consensus from the population changes. This is inevitable.

Most people believe that fox hunting is such an activity over said line and so the pro-hunting advocates just have to deal with that I am afraid. Any reintroduction would be very undemocratic and as such would be, obviously, opposed by the Leave supporting folks where democracy is at the core of their argument.

Really??? I wasn't aware we'd had a referendum on fox hunting.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Really??? I wasn't aware we'd had a referendum on fox hunting.

if we did the losing side would say we didn't know what we were voting for so we must have a peoples vote.

[Mobes]

I’m sure there would be a bus somewhere that would say ‘£350 million for the RSPCA!’ Or 2 million Turkish foxes will flood the UK and that would be bullshit too!

[Carth]

Is fox hunting a sport, or a benefit to rural communities? *








* asking for a friend who is also confused about Badger baiting and Hare coursing