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Old 14-07-2015, 12:46   #1261
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

Agreed - a more hypocritical bunch of opportunists it would be hard to find.
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Old 14-07-2015, 13:02   #1262
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The Conservatives have abandoned plans to relax fox hunting laws in England and Wales after the SNP announced they would vote against the plans, despite fox hunting being a devolved area, and therefore normally an issue on which the nationalists would abstain.

The SNP's U-Turn, coupled with Labour opposition to the change, and opposition from many Tory MPs, including the sports minister, Tracey Crouch, meant the plans had little chance of passing the House of Commons, forcing the government to back down or risk its first defeat.
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Old 14-07-2015, 14:09   #1263
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

The posh people will just have to find something else to hunt and kill now.

Dave would make a good fox.

he tried to abuse his power. and he lost.
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Old 14-07-2015, 14:11   #1264
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

Well, at least he didn't lose the election......
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

Clever move by the SNP this.

Hopefully the extra time gives more opportunity for English and Welsh MPs to be worked on over this barbaric relic of a by-gone era.
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Old 14-07-2015, 14:31   #1266
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

It'll be back in the Autumn after we've barred the jocks from voting on it.

If ever you needed a reason for English votes on English laws this is a shining example.
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Old 14-07-2015, 14:43   #1267
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Clever move by the SNP this.

Hopefully the extra time gives more opportunity for English and Welsh MPs to be worked on over this barbaric relic of a by-gone era.
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It'll be back in the Autumn after we've barred the jocks from voting on it.

If ever you needed a reason for English votes on English laws this is a shining example.
Yes, isn't it amazing. The 'poster child' for EVEL will be a law regarding the right of over-privileged toffs and city (w)bankers at their hardly ever occupied but pricing out the locals rural residences to dress up in ridiculous costumes and tear through the countryside with a bunch of dogs to hunt down and rip foxes apart. If it's the first time someone is there they may even get to have the still-warm fox blood on their face.

Clearly something that really belongs in a modern 1st world country in 2015.

I'm so proud to be English sometimes.

Incidentally sass aside this was exactly what the SNP were going for when they mentioned voting. They are nationalists, this just improved their case while staining EVEL. I agree with EVEL, hell I want a federal UK, or a FUK if you prefer, but to make this such a big issue is dumb.

Big mistake to put this off until after EVEL, make it such an issue, and feed into the nationalists. Should've taken the hit, accepted the loss, and gotten on with life. Way too much political capital wasted over something much of the population don't care about and most of the rest are vehemently opposed to.
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

I really do think there are far more pressing issues for HMG to be using parliamentary time for. Next week they'll be off on their summer recess and shutting up shop until September.
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I really do think there are far more pressing issues for HMG to be using parliamentary time for. Next week they'll be off on their summer recess and shutting up shop until September.
I hope nothing happens while they're all away that they have to rush back for.
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Yep like picking up their P45s.
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Old 15-07-2015, 15:30   #1272
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Clever move by the SNP this.

Hopefully the extra time gives more opportunity for English and Welsh MPs to be worked on over this barbaric relic of a by-gone era.
Or, clever move by the Tories to see which way the SNP play their cards.... and using this to enforce english votes for english laws

Interestingly, the SNP would have vetoed the changes that would take the current English law and aligned it with current Scottish law.

So, it's quite clearly not about the foxes then
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So, it's quite clearly not about the foxes then
Has it EVER been about the foxes....?


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Has it EVER been about the foxes....?


Nope.
Its all about the sport and the addiction of watching an animal ripped to shreds before there eye's to give them some sort of gratification.
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Its all about the sport and the addiction of watching an animal ripped to shreds before there eye's to give them some sort of gratification.
Nope wrong again.

That may be what your concerned about, but I can guarantee that when the ban was first proposed and this subsequent bollocks with the SNP, the fox is purely an after thought.
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