Bring Back Fox Hunting

[TheDaddy]

The world has finally gone stark raving mad if this is remotely true

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/...the-urban-fox/

[Pierre]

meh

[Julian]

So, a manifesto pledge for a free vote to repeal the hunting act.

I wonder how that will go.....

Originally Posted by Julian

So, a manifesto pledge for a free vote to repeal the hunting act.

I wonder how that will go.....

I expect they will manage to hold the vote. If they do it early enough in the life of the parliament it will probably pass easily enough.

[TheDaddy]

What's change in ten years, bugger all so why is Dave wasting more parliamentary time on this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...y-changed.html

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

What's change in ten years, bugger all so why is Dave wasting more parliamentary time on this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...y-changed.html

Nothing's changed. It was an illiberal piece of class hatred when it was enacted and it still is. Bad law has no place on the books.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Chris

Nothing's changed. It was an illiberal piece of class hatred when it was enacted and it still is. Bad law has no place on the books.

Agree it's a bad law. Ban hunting entirely, with or without dogs, job done.

Hunting of animals for entertainment is a revolting, inhumane activity that belongs in the past along with the nauseating rituals that seem to accompany it.

Where there are genuine issues with population that need addressing because we've completely messed up the natural population controls they can be addressed on a case by case basis.

Obviously this is wishful thinking given this is the government that, in complete contradiction to evidence based policy, insisted on what has ended up as a counter-productive badger cull.

Anyone who gets their kicks hunting animals should be hunted themselves. Just to get the odds similar to those the animals have they get absolutely no weapons of any kind and are hunted by a team with high powered rifles, helicopters and land-based vehicles of their choice out in the middle of nowhere.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Anyone who gets their kicks hunting animals should be hunted themselves. Just to get the odds similar to those the animals have they get absolutely no weapons of any kind and are hunted by a team with high powered rifles, helicopters and land-based vehicles of their choice out in the middle of nowhere.

[broadbandking]

Its just up themselves ***** that think its a sport to kill a defenceless animals

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Agree it's a bad law. Ban hunting entirely, with or without dogs, job done.

Hunting of animals for entertainment is a revolting, inhumane activity that belongs in the past along with the nauseating rituals that seem to accompany it.

Where there are genuine issues with population that need addressing because we've completely messed up the natural population controls they can be addressed on a case by case basis.

Obviously this is wishful thinking given this is the government that, in complete contradiction to evidence based policy, insisted on what has ended up as a counter-productive badger cull.

Anyone who gets their kicks hunting animals should be hunted themselves. Just to get the odds similar to those the animals have they get absolutely no weapons of any kind and are hunted by a team with high powered rifles, helicopters and land-based vehicles of their choice out in the middle of nowhere.

Don't mean to be pedantic, but "ban hunting entirely" you've just made the commercial fishing industry illegal.

Fishing, trawling et al, is effectively hunting, as opposed to farming.

You have to be clear on the definition, like any law the devil is in the wording.

Hunting for entertainment, yes I can see the point. But there are forms of hunting that are acceptable.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Don't mean to be pedantic, but "ban hunting entirely" you've just made the commercial fishing industry illegal.

Fishing, trawling et al, is effectively hunting, as opposed to farming.

You have to be clear on the definition, like any law the devil is in the wording.

Hunting for entertainment, yes I can see the point. But there are forms of hunting that are acceptable.

Angling kills more animals than 'blood sports', we've discussed it in this thread before and in a nutshell if a fish bleeds it's going to die, horribly but that's seemingly okay, presumably because they're ugly old fish and don't look like dogs or behave like cats

[Sirius]

Looks like the vote to relax rules on fox hunting will be a big failure for the Government.

The Prime Minister's plan to relax rules on fox hunting in England and Wales has fallen into disarray after it emerged that the Scottish National Party will vote against the proposals.

Angus Robertson, leader of the SNP at Westminster, said: "We totally oppose fox hunting, and when there are moves in the Scottish Parliament to review whether the existing Scottish ban is strong enough, it is in the Scottish interest to maintain the existing ban in England and Wales for Holyrood to consider."

http://news.sky.com/story/1518344/sn...nge-in-england

This might be the only time i have agreed with anything the SNP has done.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Looks like the vote to relax rules on fox hunting will be a big failure for the Government.




http://news.sky.com/story/1518344/sn...nge-in-england

This might be the only time i have agreed with anything the SNP has done.

Indeed. Spiked Dave's guns.

Originally Posted by Sirius

Looks like the vote to relax rules on fox hunting will be a big failure for the Government.




http://news.sky.com/story/1518344/sn...nge-in-england

This might be the only time i have agreed with anything the SNP has done.

Hypocrisy on the SNP's part - they have a law in Scotland* which is exactly the same as the one that is being proposed, but they will vote against in Britain, having been joint proposers and passed it in Scotland.

*Protection of Wild Mammals (Scotland) Act 2002

[Julian]

Exactly.

Hopefully legislation can be put in place to exclude scottish MP's from voting on England and Wales issues asap.