Bring Back Fox Hunting

[TheDaddy]

English votes for English issues could see the ban repealed

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-not-part.html

Labour challenge Dave and the kippers to guarantee they won't repeal

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...foxhunting-ban

[papa smurf]

how can they ??
i thought the butchers said the staff would all lose their jobs all the dogs would have to be put down and the horses sent to supermarkets as beef .

[Ignitionnet]

Few things are quite such a grim site as seeing a bunch of twunts in their red and white twunt uniforms riding out to chase down, exhaust and in turn kill animals for fun.

I say repeal the ban on condition that it's made legal to hunt fox hunters using motor vehicles and guns. The odds are pretty much as fair for them on horses as they are for foxes being chased by them and a pack of dogs.

While we're at it ban all hunting that isn't hand to hand or sustenance. If people want to follow barbaric customs they can do it in the manner barbarians would, not with modern technology or the assistance of tamed animals.

Not a huge fan of horse riding to the extent it's done in the UK, nor the feudal system of land ownership generally.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Few things are quite such a grim site as seeing a bunch of twunts in their red and white twunt uniforms riding out to chase down, exhaust and in turn kill animals for fun.

I say repeal the ban on condition that it's made legal to hunt fox hunters using motor vehicles and guns. The odds are pretty much as fair for them on horses as they are for foxes being chased by them and a pack of dogs.

While we're at it ban all hunting that isn't hand to hand or sustenance. If people want to follow barbaric customs they can do it in the manner barbarians would, not with modern technology or the assistance of tamed animals.

Not a huge fan of horse riding to the extent it's done in the UK, nor the feudal system of land ownership generally.

what modern technology ?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

what modern technology ?

I would hope the context is pretty clear that I'm referring to hunting in general, hence in the case of some of it hunting rifles and shotguns.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I would hope the context is pretty clear that I'm referring to hunting in general, hence in the case of some of it hunting rifles and shotguns.

the gun isn't modern unless its still the 13th century

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Few things are quite such a grim site as seeing a bunch of twunts in their red and white twunt uniforms riding out to chase down, exhaust and in turn kill animals for fun.

I say repeal the ban on condition that it's made legal to hunt fox hunters using motor vehicles and guns. The odds are pretty much as fair for them on horses as they are for foxes being chased by them and a pack of dogs.

While we're at it ban all hunting that isn't hand to hand or sustenance. If people want to follow barbaric customs they can do it in the manner barbarians would, not with modern technology or the assistance of tamed animals.

Not a huge fan of horse riding to the extent it's done in the UK, nor the feudal system of land ownership generally.

The odds were fairer to the fox pre ban, one hunt reported killing more foxes in one day after the ban with the aid of rifles than it did in the entire year previously. You're including fishing in your sweeping ban proposal?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Few things are quite such a grim site as seeing a bunch of twunts in their red and white twunt uniforms riding out to chase down, exhaust and in turn kill animals for fun.

I say repeal the ban on condition that it's made legal to hunt fox hunters using motor vehicles and guns. The odds are pretty much as fair for them on horses as they are for foxes being chased by them and a pack of dogs.

While we're at it ban all hunting that isn't hand to hand or sustenance. If people want to follow barbaric customs they can do it in the manner barbarians would, not with modern technology or the assistance of tamed animals.

Not a huge fan of horse riding to the extent it's done in the UK, nor the feudal system of land ownership generally.

Neanderthal hunting, now that would be fun to do.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The odds were fairer to the fox pre ban, one hunt reported killing more foxes in one day after the ban with the aid of rifles than it did in the entire year previously. You're including fishing in your sweeping ban proposal?

Since when have fishermen been seen baying like animals and spreading the blood of there victims on the new members of there club. Since when have fishermen ripped there fish apart when still alive for fun ???. Fox hunters are Neanderthals simple as that reminiscent of a barbaric age where we killed for fun and sport.

[Sephiroth]

What a load of tosh this fox hunting stuff. If people want to do it, let them. Otherwise we must all become vegetarians, not travel to Korea and not let our cats catch the mice.

Jeez.

Originally Posted by Sirius

Neanderthal hunting, now that would be fun to do.

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Since when have fishermen been seen baying like animals and spreading the blood of there victims on the new members of there club. Since when have fishermen ripped there fish apart when still alive for fun ???. Fox hunters are Neanderthals simple as that reminiscent of a barbaric age where we killed for fun and sport.

Neanderthals killed to eat. They hunted animals and gathered nuts, berries and cereals in order to survive. Being successful in that context means killing cleanly, only taking what you need, when you need it, and not frightening away your food source by yelling and screaming. "Neanderthal" is possibly the worst description for someone who hunts for recreation, regardless of the method they use.

In any case, I always thought you had a principled objection to the unnecessary suffering and death of animal life - it seems from what you're saying now that you're just a class warrior. Or am I misreading you?

[Pierre]

I'm not against fox hunting, I don't think it should have been banned.

That said, it's been so long now that I don't see any point in overturning it.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Chris

Neanderthals killed to eat. They hunted animals and gathered nuts, berries and cereals in order to survive. Being successful in that context means killing cleanly, only taking what you need, when you need it, and not frightening away your food source by yelling and screaming. "Neanderthal" is possibly the worst description for someone who hunts for recreation, regardless of the method they use.

In any case, I always thought you had a principled objection to the unnecessary suffering and death of animal life - it seems from what you're saying now that you're just a class warrior. Or am I misreading you?

Misreading me, i don't care what there class is. I asked about the fishing because it's there first line of defense in all conversations about fox hunting

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

the gun isn't modern unless its still the 13th century

There were hunting rifles in the 13th century? Wow, must read up on my history.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

The odds were fairer to the fox pre ban, one hunt reported killing more foxes in one day after the ban with the aid of rifles than it did in the entire year previously. You're including fishing in your sweeping ban proposal?

Twunts will be twunts.

Fishing is tricky as, of course, they can generally be put back to carry on with their life and aren't as smart as mammals. Between that and their short memories it's tempting to say that it's okay but, to be honest, it isn't, at least for recreation.

Once a fox has been killed to satisfy the blood-lust of a bunch of Hooray Henries on horseback however it's a slightly different equation.

Hooray Henry hunting I can, however, get on board with.

EDIT: I should add that I'm also in favour of a ban on hunting rifles / shotguns without a damn good reason to own one. I don't consider the view that shooting largely defenceless animals is an essential pre- or post-getting hammered on champagne and gin on a weekend activity as a damn good reason. A good quantity of the twunts who engage in such behaviour likely spend the majority of their waking time in urban environments and are about as rural as I am.

Well, those who didn't inherit half the country do, as they may actually have to work for a living. Albeit in a job that pays a ton but they are completely inept in that mummy/daddy got for them post-public school.

Now that is class warfare

[papa smurf]

[QUOTE=Ignitionnet;35748779]There were hunting rifles in the 13th century? Wow, must read up on my history.[COLOR="Silver"]

i said the gun -what you shoot at is personal choice

Main article: History of the firearm
See also: History of gunpowder
The earliest depiction of a firearm is a sculpture from a cave in Sichuan, China. The sculpture dates to the 12th century and is of a figure carrying a vase-shaped bombard, with flames and a cannonball coming out of it.[6] The oldest surviving gun, made of bronze, has been dated to 1288 because it was discovered at a site in modern-day Acheng District, Heilongjiang, China, where the Yuan Shi records that battles were fought at that time.[7] The firearm had a 6.9 inch barrel of a 1 inch diameter, a 2.6 inch chamber for the gunpowder and a socket for the firearm's handle. It is 13.4 inches long and 7.8 pounds without the handle, which would have been made of wood.[8]

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Neanderthal hunting, now that would be fun to do.

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Since when have fishermen been seen baying like animals and spreading the blood of there victims on the new members of there club. Since when have fishermen ripped there fish apart when still alive for fun ???. Fox hunters are Neanderthals simple as that reminiscent of a barbaric age where we killed for fun and sport.

Originally Posted by Sirius

Misreading me, i don't care what there class is. I asked about the fishing because it's there first line of defense in all conversations about fox hunting

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

There were hunting rifles in the 13th century? Wow, must read up on my history.

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Twunts will be twunts.

Fishing is tricky as, of course, they can generally be put back to carry on with their life and aren't as smart as mammals. Between that and their short memories it's tempting to say that it's okay but, to be honest, it isn't, at least for recreation.

Once a fox has been killed to satisfy the blood-lust of a bunch of Hooray Henries on horseback however it's a slightly different equation.

Hooray Henry hunting I can, however, get on board with.

EDIT: I should add that I'm also in favour of a ban on hunting rifles / shotguns without a damn good reason to own one. I don't consider the view that shooting largely defenceless animals is an essential pre- or post-getting hammered on champagne and gin on a weekend activity as a damn good reason. A good quantity of the twunts who engage in such behaviour likely spend the majority of their waking time in urban environments and are about as rural as I am.

Well, those who didn't inherit half the country do, as they may actually have to work for a living. Albeit in a job that pays a ton but they are completely inept in that mummy/daddy got for them post-public school.

Now that is class warfare

Unfortunately at least 43% of fish caught and released don't continue to live their lives quite happily, they die within six days, you get the hook anywhere other than their lip and it's be more humane to bang them on the head than throw them back

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_and_release

What about hunting with an eagle owl or golden eagle, any real difference between that and the guy with the sparrow hawk in Trafalgar square controlling the pigeons.

Can't believe this could be going back to the commons