The iPhone thread - Page 100

Stuart · 19-08-2010, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by pabloo

shocking thread..wonder if n3 can be unlocked lol

No, and get back on topic. Now.

wwe · 19-08-2010, 21:04

can you get the iphone with 3 yet?

Tezcatlipoca · 19-08-2010, 21:10

Yep - http://www.three.co.uk/Phones/iPhone

alferret · 20-08-2010, 18:04

Cobbydaler · 20-08-2010, 18:05

Apple patents remote disabling of jailbroken phones.

Including taking your picture & logging your location!

Link

Tezcatlipoca · 20-08-2010, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Apple patents remote disabling of jailbroken phones.

Including taking your picture & logging your location!

Link

The article sounds a little scaremongery to me.

Apple has applied for a patent for methods to differentiate between authorised and unauthorised users, and enable unauthorised users to be locked out. One of the things which can be looked for is whether the device has been Jailbroken, but it's not a case of "Apple are going to remotely disable Jailbroken iPhones!" as some on the 'net seem to think.

Calmer article: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...-ios-users.ars

Jailbreaking your iPhone or other device is 100% legal now in the US, no more grey area. There's no way that Apple could get away with locking people out of their own legally owned & legally Jailbroken phones.

jb66 · 20-08-2010, 19:48

How can the phone take a picture of you, BS IMO

Cobbydaler · 20-08-2010, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D

The article sounds a little scaremongery to me.

Apple has patented methods to differentiate between authorised and unauthorised users, and enable unauthorised users to be locked out. One of the things which can be looked for is whether the device has been Jailbroken, but it's not a case of "Apple are going to remotely disable Jailbroken iPhones!" as some on the 'net seem to think.

Calmer article: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/20...-ios-users.ars

Jailbreaking your iPhone or other device is 100% legal now in the US, no more grey area. There's no way that Apple could get away with locking people out of their own legally owned & legally Jailbroken phones.

Doesn't sound that different in matters of fact to me:

Quote:

Originally Posted by arstechnica

The patent, titled "Systems and Methods for Identifying Unauthorized Users of an Electronic Device," describes several ways a device could sense who is using an iPhone or iPad. Among the methods considered are voice print analysis, photo analysis, heartbeat analysis (!), hacking attempts, or even "noting particular activities that can indicate suspicious behavior."
If the various analyses detect someone who is not authorized to use the device, it could set off a number of automated features designed to protect the device's data, suss out the offending party, and alert the device owner. Sensitive data could be backed up to a remote server and the device could be wiped. The device could automatically snap pictures of the unauthorized user and record the GPS coordinates of the device, as well as log keystrokes, phone calls, or other activity. That information could be sent along with an alert to any useful service, such as e-mail, voicemail, Twitter, Facebook, or a "cloud service" like MobileMe.

My bold...

Tezcatlipoca · 20-08-2010, 19:58

"If the various analyses detect someone who is not authorized to use the device, it could set off a number of automated features designed to protect the device's data, suss out the offending party, and alert the device owner."

My bold

It's aimed at detecting unauthorised users, & then restricting their use. It's not aimed at detecting Jailbreakers. It can see if the device has been Jailbroken, but that could not be sole grounds for "unauthorised use", given its newfound legality. Apple cannot lock you out of your own phone just because you have done something completely legal to it.

One article: "Apple Patents Remotely Disabling Jailbroken Phones"

Another: "Apple may be looking to lock out unauthorized iOS users"

Rather different.

jrhnewark · 22-08-2010, 01:59

A word from a user of the iPhone 4 on Three...

Got rid of my iPhone 3G (well, it's still under the coffee table, but will go to O2 Recycle...) and managed to get one from a Three Store - eventually - about three weeks ago.

For £30 a month I'm getting unlimited texts, 1GB of data, more minutes than I know and unlimited 3-to-3 mins. The iPhone 4 16GB cost me £99 outright on a 24-month contract.

I've been really impressed by Three's network. Unlike O2, no more dodgy capacity and all connectivity dropping in and out in Lakeside, Bluewater etc.

At worst, it drops onto Orange's 2G network which is rock solid - or at least it's a good enough back-up (there was a big outage a few days ago - not that I noticed).

When they merge their networks with T-Mobile, presumably Three customers will get the best of 2G from T-Mobile and Orange and Three already site-share with T-Mobile for 3G sites - so a pretty good network to be on.

They don't offer any Wi-Fi bundled, but compared to O2 it's like being on WiFi more than 3G.

The only downside is their customer service. All out in India, all very much driven by hopeless scripts, all very difficult. Avoid if at all possible!

Lord Nikon · 22-08-2010, 16:04

Why O2 recycle? I would offer more than they do.

Stuart · 22-08-2010, 16:09

They offered me £125 for my old 3G (with a crack around the Dock port) that was nearly two years old.

Lord Nikon · 22-08-2010, 16:23

I assume it was an 8Gb then?

Stuart · 22-08-2010, 17:38

16.

Lord Nikon · 22-08-2010, 19:54

That's ridiculous