Tivo V6 : Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)

[Ddonald2016]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Below is MediaBoy's original post with my comments in italics. MediaBoy's comments are from August and obviously the marketplace has changed since then.

TiVo A:
-1tb
-6 tuners
-wifi
-Allow streaming to one device
-Cost £99 with a £12p/m charge.
The 1Tb has 4K. I don't think there would be an extra £12pm charge as this is just the standard box.



TiVo B:
-2tb
-6 tuners
-Allow you to stream to 4 devices
-wifi
-4k
-Cost £199 with £15p/m charge.
I can't see VM selling this for £200, no one would buy it.


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I agree with sky it is also £200 but if you add multi room it's £60 but for existing customers each box is £99, so for £99 with all the 4K on demand from sky living, cinema, sports and F1, why would we pay £199 for a box with no 4K material, not forgetting the programmes we can download to tablets will be limited, I'll stick with slow TiVo until the V6 is worth it

The 1tb would need to built into existing VIP as we pay extra current TiVo in bundle.

But if they was to say £199 per box I'd go sorry, wait on next price rise , they have no shortage and leave to sky

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Why don't virgin get off there bits and tell us something

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Sky have no increase to package, no extra fee just £99 per box

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Current monthly cost£112.75

Without offers £143.64

What you've added

New 12 month minimum subscriptions

Sky Q Multiscreen£12

New total monthly cost £112.75

New 12 month minimum subscriptions

One-off cost£198

Equipment No cost

Sky Q boxes, including the remotes supplied with them, and the Sky Q Hub are loaned to you by Sky at no cost and must be returned when the Sky service they are used with ends.

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But virgin are thinking in august of £200 and also monthly fee reayv

[muppetman11]

People get really angered on here don't they , who knows what's the prices will be however they'll have to be competitive with Sky so calm down.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016

So when is it coming well we still don't know,

How much will it cost we still don't know,

Can we get more than one we still don't know,

What does the software look like we still don't know

What 4K content that don't cost any extra on top of our subscription, we still don't know

Will you ever stop complaining.... we do know the answer to that one

[Mythica]

Originally Posted by denphone

According to MB's latest posting there are definitely at least 2 box sizes.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...&postcount=201

That's from August.

Originally Posted by passingbat

Will you ever stop complaining.... we do know the answer to that one

Looking at Ddonalds posting history, I'm starting to wonder if he is a Sky employee.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

People get really angered on here don't they , who knows what's the prices will be however they'll have to be competitive with Sky so calm down.

Yes some cannot seem to contain themselves but alas that is this forum for you sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Looking at Ddonalds posting history, I'm starting to wonder if he is a Sky employee.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Looking at Ddonalds posting history, I'm starting to wonder if he is a Sky employee.

The amount or time he spends ranting on here I highly doubt that.

[Ddonald2016]

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Looking at Ddonalds posting history, I'm starting to wonder if he is a Sky employee.

Hey god no I don't work for sky, I'm a virgin customer of 15 years

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Stephen

How do you work that out?

Existing customers already paying and new customers bring in extra revenue so it makes more sense to attract new customers

In business, customer retention is just as important as customer attraction and is much cheaper to achieve.

By this I mean that there are costs associated with attracting new customers that aren't present with keeping existing customers happy eg advertising, supplying equipment, staff costs/resources etc.

[Mad Max]

Donald, are you howling at the moon again..................

[RB2004]

When this comes out, if I go through retentions... anybody think I have any kind of a chance on getting a deal to upgrade all 3 of my Tivo boxes?

Im certainly not wanting to pay £200 a box to upgrade 3 boxes... that's £600... beyond a joke.

[RichardCoulter]

This makes an interesting read:

https://techcrunch.com/2016/05/03/wh...-making-sense/

It says that ten years ago, TiVo was hardware play and now it's regarded as software play.

When TiVo made the hardware and put their software onto them, I bet they were excellent machines, but now they seem to licence their software to any old box.

I think that the problems with the VM TiVo, therefore, do not lie with the TiVo software itself, but the crappy box that VM have used to run it on.

Had TiVo made the boxes, things would be a whole lot different.

[Ddonald2016]

Originally Posted by RB2004

When this comes out, if I go through retentions... anybody think I have any kind of a chance on getting a deal to upgrade all 3 of my Tivo boxes?

Im certainly not wanting to pay £200 a box to upgrade 3 boxes... that's £600... beyond a joke.

Sadly the price is a mystery but I don't think they will give out three at start but these will be new at start with likely bugs, I'd keep one old TiVo the now

[fenman35]

Well Sky Q still has many bugs including flicker and disappearing red buttons many months on

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I think that the problems with the VM TiVo, therefore, do not lie with the TiVo software itself, but the crappy box that VM have used to run it on.

Had TiVo made the boxes, things would be a whole lot different.

I don't think Tivo ever manufactured the boxes themselves, they never were a hardware company. This was outsourced to companies like Philips and Thomson. It was just that Tivo sold subscriptions directly to consumers. Fine when cable companies had poor EPGs but this was an unviable business model when they caught up with Tivo's technology.
I don't think there's anything wrong with VM's manufacturers Samsung and Cisco. Just that like an old PC or phone, they are not powerful enough. I've seen YouView boxes run similarly slow and even hang on Demand 5.

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Originally Posted by fenman35

Well Sky Q still has many bugs including flicker and disappearing red buttons many months on

I think they rushed it after BT launched its 4K box but I think it was the right decision for Sky.