Sky Fibre and VM BB

Ive given up on the idea btw lol lol

[adduxi]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Jeez, Adduxi - what you doing giving Qasi credit for his remarks?

LOL!! I know, I'm just too easy going .....

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I don't see the point in your knocking Adduxi for his choice. It's negative and unhelpful.

I don't see the point in your knocking me for my choice. It's negative and unhelpful.

BTW, he chose it for a prime purpose that a £10 router could not reliably handle.

But my point is it's something a £10 router could reliably handle, if not better.

Indeed what reliable £10 Multi-WAN router is out there? I can afford to waste that to see if it does the job as you dsay it will.

Any router that runs OpenWRT or modern editions of DD-WRT. Prime example being the DIR-615. You can set it up with 50 WANs if you dare.

Start here: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start

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Originally Posted by adduxi

In fairness though, not being an expert, I didn't know a £10 router could do Dual WAN. Everything I looked at was a tad more expensive.

See I don't tend to rely on companies marketing their own proprietary implementations of basic concepts at any price, particularly where I know all WANs of any type on non-rack routers are essentially software functions.

Hence I prefer to go for standard, open, tried and trusted implementations. In this case, anything that runs Linux can support dual-WAN (or any number of WANs). Linux software has long been an industry standard for network-heavy and complex tasks - anywhere that needs powerful, reliable, and flexible routing of any kind will inevitably run Linux. Hence, any router that runs an open version of Linux will allow you to implement any industry-standard WAN setup available to any other Linux router.

Buying one with it pre-equipped is just paying a large markup for someone else to install free software on it for you and stick their label on it.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Jeez, Adduxi - what you doing giving Qasi credit for his remarks?

Who else are you supposed to give credit to for my remarks? My mother?!

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Originally Posted by jb66

So I could bond two superhubs for a tenner? How, what, where?

DIR-615.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dd-wrt+multi+wan
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=openwrt+multi+wan
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=linux+multi+wan

[adduxi]

Qasi,

Nice information, albeit after I've made my purchase

In reality I doubt if I would have managed to get all this stuff working, hence the 'buy off the shelf'.
Maybe someday I'll get an old 615 and tinker, having said that I do have a RT-16 doing nothing ...... Hmmm I wonder .......

[qasdfdsaq]

Yes I admit it's not easy or user friendly - *but* some companies have actually shipped off-the-shelf routers with these open source operating systems installed (they weren't too popular, not unlike the Dell laptops with factory installed Ubuntu linux).

But in my previous job one of my main duties was to manage a pile of open-source Linux servers and enterprise routers so for me it's second nature

Hell, everything from the Superhub to top-end Cisco and Juniper chassis run some variation of Linux.

[Qtx]

While the OpenWRT software is brilliant and can do a ton of things, it is still limited by the hardware it runs on. A 615 could do all those WANS but it's not powerful enough in reality if there is heavy usage. It's not easy for the average consumer to choose a router, yet alone find out how powerful the are underneath.

Talking of CPU power....does anyone know what the max speed of a 615 is, if it is running OpenVPN software and all the traffic going through the tunnel? Another example of the CPU being the limiting factor but could still be useful

[qasdfdsaq]

If you use the hardware accelerated NAT it does about 800Mbps, or rather 5% CPU usage while maxing out a 100Mbps port.

If you don't use hardware acceleration it can handle about 160Mbps in software depending on the software used.

[Qtx]

The hardware is made for NAT but was thinking about the 615 doing the grunt of the OpenVPN work rather than just passing through the data from another device.

I ran a VPN server on the Raspberry Pi and throughput was terrible because of the strain it put on the Cpu. Putting it on a Synology NAS (with floating point) was better but the CPU was still the limiting factor. Don't expect an old bit of hardware like the 615 to be able to do much better when it comes to running OpenVPN. Pushing data through unaltered is another story though.

[qasdfdsaq]

No, you're right there. Hardware accelerated NAT will accelerate... well... NAT, and not VPN. Software VPN, last I checked, ran at about 60-80Mbps.

Of course, you could bond two of them using a third, upstream DIR-615 and split the load :P

[Qtx]

Cheers, that has just solved a problem for a friend

Load splitting for those who have way too man 615's than they should do :lol:

[qasdfdsaq]

What are you insinuating?!

(P.S. My collection's grown about 3x since then >_>)