Trumps angry america

[Pierre]

I can't believe the BBC sanction such biased reporting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...-angry-america

It's embarrassing.

No it's the norm now impartiality and balanced reporting long ago left the BBC and just as I didn't appreciate Obama's interference in the EU referendum I don't agree with the BBC making any commentary on the US presidential elections.

[denphone]

As Rizzy says you have to go a long way to find impartiality and fair reporting nowadays sadly as journalistic standards have distinctly gone downhill from 20 to 30 years ago in my opinion.

[Stephen]

What makes it biased?

[Pierre]

Focusing on one specific demographic, actually mostly just one family, and holding them up as the atypical Trump supporter.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I can't believe the BBC sanction such biased reporting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...-angry-america

It's embarrassing.

Erm ,it's not meant to be unbiased ,it's a focus piece by Panarama

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by martyh

Erm ,it's not meant to be unbiased ,it's a focus piece by Panarama

Why shouldn't it be unbiased? What's panarama's agenda then?

Originally Posted by Pierre

Why shouldn't it be unbiased? What's panarama's agenda then?

Because it's a piece about a specific demographic ,namely white Americans of low income and low education and how much support a racist scumbag like Trump is garnering from them ,it doesn't have to be unbiased and there is no 'agenda' .

In actual fact the show is highlighting the very same problems European countries are having with rising racism being linked to rising immigration

I also wonder how unbiased you can be without unintentionally normalising the abnormal. Trump is quite out there with what he has said about other religions, women and political opponents, he isn't a conventional conservative, and I think it's acceptable to cover him in that way.

I'm wondering how long it'll be before someone shoots him

[denphone]

Well obviously not wishing for anybody to be shot its probably inevitable given how many times politicians and famous people have been shot at in the last 50 years plus in America.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by martyh

Because it's a piece about a specific demographic ,namely white Americans of low income and low education and how much support a racist scumbag like Trump is garnering from them ,it doesn't have to be unbiased and there is no 'agenda' .

In actual fact the show is highlighting the very same problems European countries are having with rising racism being linked to rising immigration

The title and the show implies that this singular demographic are the trump vanguard, and that is simp,y not the case.

Middle class white Americans, and black Americans are also supporting Trump.

Also how is Trump a racist scumbag? Please advise where and when he has put forward the proposition that white Americans are superior to other Americans of different ethnic genealogy.

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Originally Posted by martyh

I'm wondering how long it'll be before someone shoots him

Democracy in action. No doubt you'll approve.

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Originally Posted by Damien

Trump is quite out there with what he has said about other religions

What has he said then that's quite out there?

Originally Posted by Pierre

The title and the show implies that this singular demographic are the trump vanguard, and that is simp,y not the case.

Middle class white Americans, and black Americans are also supporting Trump.

Not that much support amongst black voters. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...g-black-voters

That poll is at the low end of his support but it appears to have been dropping for a while. Usually around 5%. It's certainly low enough that it's not incorrect to talk of him having hardly any support there. When we talk about 'who is voting for whom' we mean demographically rather than individually.

The newsworthy element of the Trump support is his connection to 'blue-collar' workers in declining industrial areas of America. People impacted by globalisation etc.

Also how is Trump a racist scumbag? Please advise where and when he has put forward the proposition that white Americans are superior to other Americans of different ethnic genealogy

If we're going to get into the semantic argument where you won't believe he has made racist statements unless explicitly given an example where he gives a textbook demonstration then you probably won't be convinced. However I think racism has a wider meaning which includes judging people based on their race, discriminating against people because of their race and so on.

Here are some examples: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...5317&tid=ss_tw

“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza — black guys counting my money!” O’Donnell’s book quoted Trump as saying. “I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. Those are the kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else. . . . Besides that, I’ve got to tell you something else. I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is; I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

“A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market,” Trump said on the program. “I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that. I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.”

I am confident enough to say these statements are 'out there' and I don't think the news media should accept this as the norm in an effort to be 'unbiased'. These are statements made by a candidate to the be the next President of the United States. We shouldn't pretend he is just as valid as any other candidate in the name of balance.

Originally Posted by Pierre

The title and the show implies that this singular demographic are the trump vanguard, and that is simp,y not the case.

Middle class white Americans, and black Americans are also supporting Trump.

Also how is Trump a racist scumbag? Please advise where and when he has put forward the proposition that white Americans are superior to other Americans of different ethnic genealogy.

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Democracy in action. No doubt you'll approve.

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What has he said then that's quite out there?

You clearly haven't been watching Trumps rantings ,however the rest of the world has and is terrified that lunatic gets control of the most powerful nation on the planet

Also how is Trump a racist scumbag

Well to start with he wants to build a wall to keep the Mexicans out

Then there's little gem “Laziness is a trait in the blacks. ... Black guys counting my money! I hate it.”

which was followed in the same outburst by this “The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yamakas every day.”

and he really really hates the Chinese

[Arthurgray50@blu]

IF Trump wins the elction, it will be a tragedy for the United States. He has so much hatred for people.

He has not had to beg for any money. He is a Multi Millionaire, fly in his OWN plane.

Treat Muslims and Mexicans, as ****. He has already said that he will build a brick wall against Mexicans, and ban Muslims from the States.

He is a total disgrace to the people of the States.

IF, he wins, guarantee, someone will try and kill him within several months.

My money is on Hilary.