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Old 21-06-2017, 19:54   #1891
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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I'm getting right peed off at being told I didn't vote for a hard Brexit.

Well I did and would do it every-time, if we stay in the trade& customs part we will still be under their thumb. so we MUST do nothing but a hard Brexit
You didn't vote for a hard Brexit David, no one did, the term hadn't been made up when we voted. I'll be nice and leave out the bit where you thought voting out meant we left the echr though and suggest instead of worrying about hard, soft or red white and blue whatevers we just concentrate on getting the best deal we can for ourselves and if that requires a bit of compromise here and there so be it imo

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A Swiss perspective on where we are now:

(Brexiteers, best look away now)

THE LAUGHING STOCK OF EUROPE
They should laugh, not just at us but at the whole EU, they got the best deal going and then never signed up!!
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

Well given what the term "hard brexit" has come to mean i think you'll find most voted for exactly that an end to our membership of the EU and any and all of it's institutions. That's why i voted leave and it's why many i know voted leave no official connection to the EU anymore then we have we other sovereign states. Remain supporters can bang on all they want about the last election being a vote against a hard brexit doesn't make it true. Yes the UK is a joke in the eyes of many apart from the swiss but then so are france and germany so we are not alone on that front.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

The attitude from France seems to be annoyance rather than mockery. They want us to get on and leave if we're doing so since it's now a year since the vote. So Brexit supporters will find more in common with them they might otherwise think!

Also with the success of pro-European politicians such as Macron, the current assumption Merkel will win re-election in September and the recovery of the Eurozone economies the EU is probably feeling more secure so a 'punishment' in the deal is probably less likely. They obviously won't give us better terms than single-market access, and I think they'll make strong plays to take some industries (Berlin is going in strong on technology start-ups for example), they will likely give tariff-free access IMO.
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Re: Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

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Remain supporters can bang on all they want about the last election being a vote against a hard brexit doesn't make it true. Yes the UK is a joke in the eyes of many apart from the swiss but then so are france and germany so we are not alone on that front.
If everyone in other countries started worrying what others in another country were saying about them, I think we would be in a long standing never ending World War.

I know I certainly couldn't give a flying duck, what some Swiss person thinks and it does not cause me to regret my vote choice whatsoever.
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The attitude from France seems to be annoyance rather than mockery. They want us to get on and leave if we're doing so since it's now a year since the vote. So Brexit supporters will find more in common with them they might otherwise think!
The main thing stopping us doing that is the EU's own internal mechanisms which are deliberately complicated and onerous in order to prevent nations just leaving.
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The only thing stopping us doing that is the EU's own internal mechanisms which are deliberately complicated and onerous in order to prevent nations just leaving.
Well it's taken as a while to issue Article 50 but I think the election result annoyed them more than anything else.
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Well it's taken as a while to issue Article 50 but I think the election result annoyed them more than anything else.
Tough on them. Plenty of what they do is highly annoying which is what led to Brexit in the first place.
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