Halogen bulb ban - Page 2

Hom3r · 02-08-2021, 15:24

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I don't think anyone has to strip out fluorescent tubes, they just can't sell them after a certain date so distributors and shops will just run down stocks before then.

But you will still need to replace fittings once they can't be sourced

1andrew1 · 02-08-2021, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

But you will still need to replace fittings once they can't be sourced

You would just replace the existing fluorescent tube with its LED equivalent eg
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brite-Sourc...127KNP0W&psc=1

I appreciate you may not wish to mix and match bulb types but larger offices tend to replace bulbs one floor at a time ie preventative maintenance.

BenMcr · 02-08-2021, 15:44

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I don't think anyone has to strip out fluorescent tubes, they just can't sell them after a certain date so distributors and shops will just run down stocks before then.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You would just replace the existing fluorescent tube with its LED equivalent eg
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brite-Sourc...127KNP0W&psc=1

I appreciate you may not wish to mix and match bulb types but larger offices tend to replace bulbs one floor at a time ie preventative maintenance.

It does depend on the fluorescent fitting though. My understanding is you need to do different things if you have a different starter/ballast setups

https://www.simplyled.co.uk/info/install-led-tubes/

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Fluorescent fixtures all contain ballasts, which will be one of two types: electronic or magnetic. If you're not sure which type of ballast is incorporated in a light fitting, listen for a faint buzzing, or look for a flickering in the light. If you can see or hear this, then it is likely to be a magnetic ballast. Alternatively, take a picture of the light (while it is on) with your smartphone. If the resulting image has black bars or stripes across it, then the light contains a magnetic ballast. If the image is clear, then it is an electronic ballast.

If the fitting contains an electronic ballast, you must remove it to prevent damage to the LED tube. Disconnect the wires from the ballast unit. Remove the unit and connect the loose wires to form a circuit. Ensure the connections are secure and insulated

Depending on the fixture and the tube, you will either need to remove or bypass a magnetic ballast entirely, or just remove the starter (a small unit within the fitting that looks a little like a cylindrical 9-volt battery). Many LED tubes are packaged with an LED starter to make installation easier. However, if you need or wish to bypass the ballast, we'd advise you to consult a professional electrician.

Carth · 02-08-2021, 16:25

Sorry but this does make me laugh.

Everyone must change to energy efficient light bulbs . . to conserve energy . . whilst having a 3 TV's in the house, routers, game consoles, computers, washing machines (with 3 hour wash cycles), dish washers, electric showers, blah blah.

We could save much much more by simply thinking about how we use what we already have

**Hugh** · 02-08-2021, 16:32

Every little helps…

Modern TVs and other appliances are much more energy efficient than those from 10+ years ago, showers are more energy efficient than baths (and you can fit shower head aerators which save water), we use 30C washes in the washing machine which saves energy, and only do full loads, etc.

Just because we can’t do everything doesn’t mean we should do nothing…

Carth · 02-08-2021, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Every little helps…

Modern TVs and other appliances are much more energy efficient than those from 10+ years ago, showers are more energy efficient than baths (and you can fit shower head aerators which save water), we use 30C washes in the washing machine which saves energy, and only do full loads, etc.

Just because we can’t do everything doesn’t mean we should do nothing…

I'm not saying do nothing, I'm saying don't watch so much crap on TV, have your toast light brown instead of dark, use a push mower instead of an electric one, share a shower

What's the cost difference in running a standard bulb for a year compared to an LED one . . . and what's the production cost difference?

Itshim · 02-08-2021, 16:50

Washing line perhaps .after all wind power is the way to go

1andrew1 · 02-08-2021, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Carth

Sorry but this does make me laugh.

Everyone must change to energy efficient light bulbs . . to conserve energy . . whilst having a 3 TV's in the house, routers, game consoles, computers, washing machines (with 3 hour wash cycles), dish washers, electric showers, blah blah.

We could save much much more by simply thinking about how we use what we already have

You need to do both.

I recommend reducing CO2 by drinking local hand-pulled ales and popping down the pub to watch the match, rather than buying a 75" TV.

**Hugh** · 02-08-2021, 17:56

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Originally Posted by Carth

I'm not saying do nothing, I'm saying don't watch so much crap on TV, have your toast light brown instead of dark, use a push mower instead of an electric one, share a shower

What's the cost difference in running a standard bulb for a year compared to an LED one . . . and what's the production cost difference?

https://www.electricalcounter.co.uk/...-running-costs

1andrew1 · 02-08-2021, 18:10

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Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.electricalcounter.co.uk/...-running-costs

45 bulbs per house seems a tad more than the usual house.

Carth · 02-08-2021, 19:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

45 bulbs per house seems a tad more than the usual house.

£395 a year seems slightly over the top too, for a few (ha) bulbs on for 2 hrs a day.

Still, it's someones job to convince us they're better, so there we go

pip08456 · 02-08-2021, 20:02

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

45 bulbs per house seems a tad more than the usual house.

You can always trust Hugh to come out with the extreme.

**Hugh** · 02-08-2021, 20:07

We’ve got 47…

Mind you, that includes 6 in the dining room (5 bulbs in the pendant lamp & 1 in the standard lamp), 4 in the lounge (4 in the pendant & 2 standard lamps), 5 inset roof lights in each of the bathrooms, 6 in the kitchen ceiling and 3 side lights over the cooker & work surfaces, all the bedrooms have a a ceiling light and two side lamps - they soon add up…

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Originally Posted by pip08456

You can always trust Hugh to come out with the extreme.

You appear to have me confused with

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Data from OVO Energy and CBS News.

Can always trust you to come out with a cheap pointless inaccurate jibe…

pip08456 · 02-08-2021, 20:08

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Originally Posted by Hugh

We’ve got 47…

Mind you, that includes 6 in the dining room (5 bulbs in the pendant lamp & 1 in the standard lamp), 4 in the lounge (4 in the pendant & 2 standard lamps), 5 inset roof lights in each of the bathrooms, 6 in the kitchen ceiling and 3 side lights over the cooker & work surfaces, all the bedrooms have a a ceiling light and two side lamps - they soon add up…

How many are on for 2 hours? Also having that many just shows you don't give a toss about cost.

**Hugh** · 02-08-2021, 20:16

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Originally Posted by pip08456

How many are on for 2 hours? Also having that many just shows you don't give a toss about cost.

I don’t know, as I didn’t do the research…

You might want to tell my kids I didn’t give a toss, the amount amount of times I told them to switch lights/tech off when they left rooms…

I live in a 4 bedroom house - the number of lights we have is about average for this sort of house (we don’t have lamps and main lights on at the same time - they each are for different purposes…).