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telegramsam · 15-08-2016, 10:28

Perhaps Virgin haven`t announced the prices yet for their new boxes because they`re still testing the water to see how much they can get away with charging customers? As previous posters have said whatever the price is when it`s first launched it`s sure to come down within a few months just like the tivo box did. The key for me is don`t rush in to get it at launch because the fewer uptakes at the start will force down the price much quicker and perhaps lower.

denphone · 15-08-2016, 10:33

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Cindy's not done too badly for herself since leaving VM. After a spell at Vodafone she's now set to become Microsoft's UK CEO. http://news.microsoft.com/en-gb/2016...w3x93hguhlv76z

Perhaps she has learnt from those infamous comments as we all make comments which later in hindsight we might regret.

nialli · 15-08-2016, 10:48

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Originally Posted by telegramsam

Perhaps Virgin haven`t announced the prices yet for their new boxes because they`re still testing the water to see how much they can get away with charging customers? As previous posters have said whatever the price is when it`s first launched it`s sure to come down within a few months just like the tivo box did. The key for me is don`t rush in to get it at launch because the fewer uptakes at the start will force down the price much quicker and perhaps lower.

In my experience with technology there's little joy in the pain of being an early adopter - you pay a premium for living with the inevitable bugs and frustrations of new tech.
I'll wait - I'm used to waiting for things to happen, I've got a TiVo!

1andrew1 · 15-08-2016, 10:58

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Originally Posted by telegramsam

Perhaps Virgin haven`t announced the prices yet for their new boxes because they`re still testing the water to see how much they can get away with charging customers? As previous posters have said whatever the price is when it`s first launched it`s sure to come down within a few months just like the tivo box did. The key for me is don`t rush in to get it at launch because the fewer uptakes at the start will force down the price much quicker and perhaps lower.

If VM announced prices now then Sky would only alter theirs and VM would have to change theirs making their original prices meaningless. Far better to see how Sky Q is performing and then announce their prices in December. But even then, the number of special deals that VM and Sky do makes price lists irrelevant at times.

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Originally Posted by nialli

In my experience with technology there's little joy in the pain of being an early adopter - you pay a premium for living with the inevitable bugs and frustrations of new tech.
I'll wait - I'm used to waiting for things to happen, I've got a TiVo!

Agreed. Early adopter = You pay the supplier extra for the privilege of testing their software for them!

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Originally Posted by denphone

Perhaps she has learnt from those infamous comments as we all make comments which later in hindsight we might regret.

I think she went on to head up Vodafone's UK retail broadband and TV operations. More sign of those 100 apps than Vodafone TV!

telegramsam · 15-08-2016, 11:04

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

If VM announced prices now then Sky would only alter theirs and VM would have to change theirs making their original prices meaningless. Far better to see how Sky Q is performing and then announce their prices in December. But even then, the number of special deals that VM and Sky do makes price lists irrelevant at times.
Well there`s that too although Virgin will have to anounce the prices at some point and then Sky could still drop theirs to counter-act virgin!
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Agreed. Early adopter = You pay the supplier extra for the privilege of testing their software for them!

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I think she went on to head up Vodafone's UK retail broadband and TV operations. More sign of those 100 apps than Vodafone TV!

nialli · 15-08-2016, 11:05

My Sony TV has over 100 Apps (Opera-based) - all but the usual suspects are crap. The only one worth having that's not on TiVo already is Amazon Video, which takes a while to load but is a nice complement to Netflix and iPlayer

telegramsam · 15-08-2016, 11:08

Sorry above didn`t come out very well! What I was saying was that virgin will have to announce their prices at some point and then sky could just reduce theirs to compete!

Stuart · 15-08-2016, 12:43

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Originally Posted by nialli

My Sony TV has over 100 Apps (Opera-based) - all but the usual suspects are crap. The only one worth having that's not on TiVo already is Amazon Video, which takes a while to load but is a nice complement to Netflix and iPlayer

That's the trouble with App Stores. Since Apple and Google made their own successful ones, it seems as though every manufacturer of any device with a CPU has to include an app store.

The trouble is, very few apps beyond games, streaming apps, fitness apps, social media apps and news apps are really any use. Your average smart TV doesn't have enough processing power to be a decent games machine, nor is it small enough to be worn or carried (so fitness apps are out). Social media is partly usable, but it's difficult to type on a remote control, so social media is almost read only, which sort of defeats the point. This just leaves News and streaming.

Both of which my own Samsung 2011 TV does well, but how many streaming apps do you need? Not enough to justify an App store, I'd wager.

Derekb108 · 15-08-2016, 19:35

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Originally Posted by nialli

My Sony TV has over 100 Apps (Opera-based) - all but the usual suspects are crap. The only one worth having that's not on TiVo already is Amazon Video, which takes a while to load but is a nice complement to Netflix and iPlayer

I remember Cindy Rose talking that Virgin had the contract for the Opera-based Apps.... it never happend though as she left....

sollp · 15-08-2016, 19:55

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Originally Posted by veeemmm

Not true. Servicing and repairs/replacements are free with Sky Q.

Well thats Sky Q then, but the rest is what i said

Horizon · 15-08-2016, 19:56

I'm hoping the apps "era" as far as tv goes will die a quick death soon.

I use three main ones: Plex (may it live forever), Netflix and Amazon.

There is the former Blinkbox (now TalkTalk) and Wuaki film/tv apps which are the main competition to Netflix and Amazon.

There's a few others like Curzon (films), Popcorn (old films), Digital theatre and the trailers app Cinetrailer and that's about all I look at on my tv beyond Iplayer/ITV/4/5 apps which I have to use as tivo is so slow and useless.

All VM need to do (hasn't happened yet in the history of cable tv..) is have a fast interface where you can access everything through one set of screens/menus/icons without having to go into separate apps. Surely it can't be that hard...?

sollp · 15-08-2016, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016

If they are following virgins model why are virgin wanting £200

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In theory it's not a UHD fee, TiVo is a £5.50 per month, the £15 is a user fee for the box

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With sky q it's free box, free call out and repairs and £12 a month with planned UHD movies and sports

with virgin box is £200 free call and repairs and £15 a month no confirmed UHD material

Are you talking about the new STB? Is there a confirmed price for this?

Ddonald2016 · 15-08-2016, 20:00

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Originally Posted by sollp

Are you talking about the new STB? Is there a confirmed price for this?

Well it's now £149 for the sky box but that is the rumoured price

1andrew1 · 15-08-2016, 21:19

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Originally Posted by sollp

Are you talking about the new STB?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by sollp

1. Are you talking about the new STB? 2. Is there a confirmed price for it?

No, so it's a bit pointless criticising or praising the pricing until it's confirmed by VM. And this will probably be four months away, possibly even more.

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